I'm going ahead and set up a "Cream Sickle" ( thank you Steve E) paint scheme for my B44 sidecar rig.
I've seen some photos but can't really tell the details. The orange and white is pretty straight forward.......what I'm wondering about is any pin stripping. I'm thinking there was a black pinstripe on the side covers..(one of RR books).....but how about the tank?
I HAVE researched photos......but so far haven't come up with what I'm looking for.
I'm using the larger steel sculptured (1969 B44SS) tank so it's not going to be an accurate reproduction of the fiberglass 67 tank......but I'd like to get it as close as I can.
Any help out there?
Tanks in advance
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 03/11/237:41 pm.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"
I can't help you, never seen one in person (wonder how many people actually have?). But after seeing gazillions with the same limited factory paint schemes, this will be a standout.
I'd suggest that you just do it the way you think it looks best. Doubt many critics will appear to tell you that you got the pinstriping wrong. However, I'll bet many will tell you that crazy "colour" combo is nothing BSA ever made...
Are you going to do white inserts on the side panels?
I can't help you, never seen one in person (wonder how many people actually have?). But after seeing gazillions with the same limited factory paint schemes, this will be a standout.
I'd suggest that you just do it the way you think it looks best. Doubt many critics will appear to tell you that you got the pinstriping wrong. However, I'll bet many will tell you that crazy "colour" combo is nothing BSA ever made...
Are you going to do white inserts on the side panels?
When I realized that I had one of the larger sculptured tanks here in nice shape and already in primer. It just makes sense to use it. Almost a gallon more capacity.
I want to copy the one pictured on the cover of Rupert's Everything But The Engine. So no sir, I'm not going to put the Ivory in the side panels. Brushfire Orange and Ivory. Looks like a black pin stripe on the battery cover? I have a fiberglass set of covers in Brushfire (69?)......and the battery side has a stripe but the oil tank cover doesn't? No way of knowing where they came from.
I have to use a different painter since Don Roe retired. But the fellow recommending the new guy has never let me down.
Not sure what to do about the badges. 67 was the single hole plastic......this 69 tank is large two hole metal.
I hear ya on not worrying much about it. It's not an attempt to create a replica. But heck if I gota pay to have it painted.......but I only want to pay for it once.....it's be nice to see a couple of good photos so I could decide. You've seen the same photo's online I have.....made it easy for me to decide not to go with the Ivory on the side covers. I'd love to see a shot of the top of the tank.......like you see of the Roadsters.
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 12/16/224:56 pm.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"
Wasn't original color Tangerine? Same as Brushfire?
According to Rupert's......Brushfire Orange was sometimes referred to by BSA as Tangerine......but not to be confused with the (70s?) Triumph Tangerine.
I have a set of covers......and a 69 B25 tank to use as examples. 99.9% sure about the tank....90% sure about the covers being a stock color?
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 12/16/225:18 pm.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"
Yes sir.....69 B25. I have a set of those. That tank is 3 gallon, steel.....which is larger than the earlier fiberglass. (and a better option for a rider IMO) BUT I want to use the even bigger tank at 3.9 gallon ( hence a need for a paint job...that tank's in primer) for my sidecar rig.
Thanks for the heads up though.
The 67 Barracuda would have had the fiberglass tank.......and unlike the 69 (250) it used Orange/Ivory on the tank instead of the 69's Orange/Gold.
Here's another example of BSA using Orange. One of the better attempts IMO.
I'd love to get my hands on an original 1967 (UK) Barracuda tank for my small collection.
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 12/22/229:23 pm.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"
Heh-heh, I like this picture... using a Tri-square and a Stanley tape.
Non-OCD simplicity.
Turns out the "widest" part of the tank is about half way down between the badge indent and the bottom of the tank. None of the tanks I have like the one shown measure "exactly" the same anyway. Before I went to the trouble to measure them all this way......I was just pulling a tape across the bottom (oh heaven forbid) and "thought" I had different tanks because of the different measurements I was coming up with.....as much as 1/2" difference. Turns out I'm going to have to chalk that up to manufacturing tolerances.
Much respect for a fellow that can spot a Stanley...
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 12/23/225:00 pm.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"
Gordon, That pic of the Bushman looks like it has the same motor as was in my Harley Hummer. I believe it started out as a 125 cc then went to 165cc, then 175c. It was made by DKW I think, My 58 Hummer had the 165cc version and would make 60 mph only with a tailwind and me laying out flat....but it had two wheels and was freedom I would not have otherwise had.
Hope SidSnot (in NZ) doesn’t mind me stealing his photo.
Beautiful bike……I’m liking more and more the idea of using this color on one of my B44s. I’m wanting to go Ivory instead of gold to try and match some of the Barracudas
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 01/06/2311:45 am.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"
Hope SidSnot (in NZ) doesn’t mind me stealing his photo.
Beautiful bike……I’m liking more and more the idea of using this color on one of my B44s. I’m wanting to go Ivory instead of gold to try and match some of the Barracudas
Looks bloomin lovely!
Life is stressful enough without getting upset over the little things...
I FINALLY found a painter…….young fellow with a great attitude.
He’s got my large scalloped tank and a set of 69 B25 side covers…….also left a 67 fiberglass C25 tank so he has the correct paint layout and can match the Ivory.
Ed V says my engine will be ready soon too.
I’m excited about getting my sidecar rig back on the road and maybe my great adventure will actually happen.
A man needs dreams…..and a plan…..once you quit dreaming and planning…..well.
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 03/10/234:09 pm.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"
Gunner, I haven't seen a real Barracuda....or at least don't remember it. I have a '67 C25 but it doesn't count.....it's in Nutley Blue.
There's a photo of what I "think" they looked like on the cover of Rupert Ratio's Volume 2. It doesn't seem to have pin striping on the tank but that might be a thin black stripe on the side cover???.
The 1969 B25 set of side covers and tank I have are in what I believe to be stock colors. They both have thin black pin striping.
That black stripe sure looks like the Barracuda's on this side cover.
This photo matches (best I can tell) the photo on the cover of RR Volume 2. So far I've not found another that doesn't look re-painted.
I'd love to add a set of those orange bits to my collection
I'm thinking the one in your link might be a repaint but I don't know for sure one way or the other.
I'm having my 3.9 gal sculptured metal tank painted to match that orange. I left a stock 1967 C25 tank with him ( in Nutely Blue) so he could match the layout and the ivory color. All this goes on my sidecar rig.
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 03/11/231:10 pm.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"
Gordon, is that 68 tank possibly a 69/70 steel replacement, painted to match? Tail light is 67, seat looks to be 70, chromed parts, so...? Not much reliable to go off there, I'd guess.
(Edit- hmm, being a non-export model, maybe that tail light is a 68?)
I'd take the cover of Rupert's book as pretty strong proof. But then again, remember the cobbled VS on the cover of the Haynes manual?... maybe covers aren't such strong evidence.
Gordon, is that 68 tank possibly a 69/70 steel replacement, painted to match? Tail light is 67, seat looks to be 70, chromed parts, so...? Not much reliable to go off there, I'd guess.
I'd take the cover of Rupert's book as pretty strong proof. But then again, remember the cobbled VS on the cover of the Haynes Manual?... maybe covers aren't such strong evidence.
Yes sir......I'd say that 68 is a repaint. Looks to be 67 forks too? The tank paint scheme doesn't match the 67 fiberglass....
I've been doing a little more research and found where a "gold" pinstripe was mentioned being used on the 69.......my set has "black".
Truth be known.......I'll never know for 100% sure what a 1967 Barracuda with the Orange option looks like.
I do like that black pinstripe on the side cover and might keep that for my cobbled together project.
That bike they picked for the cover of the Haynes manual..........never have understood that decision.
Last edited by Gordon Gray; 03/12/235:29 pm.
Gordon Gray in NC, USA........"Trees are for traction"