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RC planes always make me have visions of a Winchester model 12 with number 3 buckshot. Now that would be fun.

If you’re actually serious about that hobby…..you might want to touch base with Don Roe in Winston-Salem. He’s retired out of the hobby with some gear sitting around unused.

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Spitfire trivia : as I recollect, owing to the way the hydraulics were set up, when the landing gear was retracting one leg would lead the other until it was about 3/4 up, then it would wait for the other leg to catch up and they would both finish retracting together. You can often see it in movies, etc.
Scale aeromodellers were duplicating this characteristic to gain extra scale points in judging.

Told you it was trivia. I could be using that brain space to remember what the missus told me to do, etc.

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i run rolloff trucks with twin cylinders for the cable. one always leads the other until the cable slack is taken up, then both move together

were tbe spitfires single stage hydraulics? maybe the lag was when the first wheel reached tbe second stage

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Here's an interesting tidbit:

"This is called sequencing. The idea is to distribute the high load on the hydraulic system due to retraction over time, so the hydraulic pumps can be smaller."
https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/22395/why-does-landing-gear-retract-with-an-offset

Seems a set of valves operating sequentially on the wheel struts (and doors if equipped).
Also seems to make sense as a weight reduction strategy for a fighter.

And to the subject at hand, it is being emulated in the judged model world for "realism points".

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My late friend "Nacho" spent WAY too much on RC planes, boats, cars & trucks. He left his widow in VERY poor financial condition.

What he probably spent over $100K for, went for about $5,000. I did all the dirty work of hauling it out of his hot, dirty shop/storage, cataloguing it, and hauling it to an RC swap meet.

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Those guys were real buzzards, but we had no recourse. I had already dutifully listed EACH ONE for sale (at already low prices, according to the market) and only sold ONE.


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Exactly the same happened with a Guzzi friend of mine, Jim S. One of his hobbies was RC airplanes, and he had dozens of beautiful models, in flying condition, up to big Quarter Scale, along with radios, fully equipped field boxes, etc.

It all went to auction, and there were a lot of people there, including many members of his RC flying club.

Like Nacho's, I estimate that it all went for a nickel on the dollar.

A friend of mine and I from the Guzzi world were there to see what would happen with his beautifully restored full dress Eldorado, which would have been a $6000 buy on eBay. We agreed that if the bidding didn't get to $3000, we would buy it and figure out what to do later.

The ONLY other bidder was a guy in his early 20's. We bid up to $2700 but agreed to stop, because we didn't want us old guys to keep a young enthusiast from getting a nice old Guzzi. So it hammered down for $2750.

A week later the damn thing was on eBay with a Buy It Now price of $7500. That's the last time I'm cutting a young punk a break; they can get into the hobby the same way WE did from now on ... mad

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gennelmens thanks for the input i went back and looked at my checkbook records for the last couple of years i spent about 20 percent of my income on motorcycle related projects/junk maybe i need to be content with what i have and not open another can of financial worms....


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Originally Posted by raf940
gennelmens thanks for the input i went back and looked at my checkbook records for the last couple of years i spent about 20 percent of my income on motorcycle related projects/junk maybe i need to be content with what i have and not open another can of financial worms....

Oh Lordy my friend why would you ever check ( pun intended) on how much money you’ve spent on the hobby?????

I keep EVERY receipt…. religiously stash them away in the bikes paper file but I NEVER have or will add them up. I just keep them for the next owner. That’s right up there with knowing what my butt hole looks like. I know it’s there butt I REALLY don’t need to be able to pick it out of a line up. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.

If anyone actually got into this hobby to MAKE money…….please let us know how that has worked out for you. It’s more like……buy a $1000 pile of rust……spend $3000 fixing it up……then sell it for $2500…..and consider it a win!

YES……be grateful for what you have….I promise you the older you get the less you’ll need ( or will be able to enjoy)

This next year I wish you would consider joining us in Shady Valley in May. I haven’t bugged you about it but this coming year is different. I “think” some folks shy away because they think their bike/bikes won’t pass muster…….you HAVE to believe me that your bikes will fit right in. The tale telling around the campfire is worth the trip. No need to answer right away……just consider it.

A frames are acceptable, this isn’t a campaigner event!!!!


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what date in May? wife and i are going back to europe Amsterdam Cologne Strausbourg Bonn Basel 400 miles on Rhine


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The actual TSMR is May 20 but the core group will be spending most of the week so May 15-21 2023.

Just show up anytime and bring your riding buddy…..he’s more than welcome too.

You’ll fit right in.

We started these events to give bb.com members an opportunity to meet face to face. 2023 will be our 25th anniversary.

Hopefully you can make it?


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that will be tight we leave for holland on 23rd i will see if i show up i will bring the xs650 relive my blue ridge ride on a brand new one in 75 when i was 23 years old


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You could come out mid week and spend the day?

Since we’ll be there all week we’ll be doing some scheduled rides……like over to Wheels Through Time in Maggie Valley. We’ll keep ya posted but it does sound like bad timing and there’s always 2024!!!!


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I can honestly say, that I have Never sold a motorcycle for more than I put into it.


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Originally Posted by Roadwarrior
I can honestly say, that I have Never sold a motorcycle for more than I put into it.

I did once, boy was I surprised.


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that will be tight we leave for holland on 23rd i will see if i show up i will bring the xs650 relive my blue ridge ride on a brand new one in 75 when i was 23 years old


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Originally Posted by Gordon Gray
You could come out mid week and spend the day?

Since we’ll be there all week we’ll be doing some scheduled rides……like over to Wheels Through Time in Maggie Valley. We’ll keep ya posted but it does sound like bad timing and there’s always 2024!!!!


Maggie Valley from Shady and back on old nails on the back roads? Whoooeee that's about 7 hours on the road round trip. We better get to fettlin'.....!

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Originally Posted by Lannis
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You could come out mid week and spend the day?

Since we’ll be there all week we’ll be doing some scheduled rides……like over to Wheels Through Time in Maggie Valley. We’ll keep ya posted but it does sound like bad timing and there’s always 2024!!!!


Maggie Valley from Shady and back on old nails on the back roads? Whoooeee that's about 7 hours on the road round trip. We better get to fettlin'.....!

Lannis

Who said anything about old nails and back roads????? Personally if I was riding to Maggie I’d take the fastest route and be on my small modern cruiser......I'm bringing one of each. smile BUT.......the only other time I did Maggie from Shady and back we took the 15 passenger chase van.......and had a hoot. A man could ride an old nail over on back roads?......spend the night in Maggie and come back in the morning. Take in Wheels and maybe the Casino if you're so inclined. I've never been in the Casino.......but can just imagine a night with gang in there....I'd be up for that just to people watch.

OF course..........I plan on being at Shady all week......there's lots of stuff to do that's much closer. I can't keep up on many of the group rides so that "I'm with you fellers" just isn't gona work for me most of the time. Dale's (RIP) place is pretty special and Maggie is set up for visitors.

We got plenty of time to make plans......

PS......the motel at the beach called me Monday. Wanted to know if we were interested in renting the place again. We hit them at a great time ..........for them.......it was pretty chancy for us but we got lucky. Yea that was a one time deal. The “best” early date for having a get together is all ready taken.

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Who said anything about old nails and back roads????? Personally if I was riding to Maggie I’d take the fastest route and be on my small modern cruiser......I'm bringing one of each. smile BUT.......the only other time I did Maggie from Shady and back we took the 15 passenger chase van.......and had a hoot. A man could ride an old nail over on back roads?......spend the night in Maggie and come back in the morning. Take in Wheels and maybe the Casino if you're so inclined. I've never been in the Casino.......but can just imagine a night with gang in there....I'd be up for that just to people watch.



Old Nail? I've done Gettysburg to Shady on a 71 T120 Triumph and on my Norton several times. Nothing to it!
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Mike Gordon wrote "Old Nail? I've done Gettysburg to Shady on a 71 T120 Triumph and on my Norton several times. Nothing to it!
YRMV"

Oh hell.......now you're just bragging. laughing

Lannis was just pointing out if I went my usual way....( vintage on two lane) I wouldn't have much time to look around Maggie. I agree with him......it's a haul there and back.

Seems like lately a lot of modern-ish motorcycles are showing up at our get togethers. It's not a bad thing. I plan on bringing my vintage BSA and a modern Honda to the 25th.

Okay Steve.....we'll stop the thread steal. Sorry for the drift

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