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Tank has the pear badge of what I think is 60 to 67, central fuel fill but flat seam underneath ( see above)
Anyone place that year? Billed as a 65 lightning but I think it could be earlier


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The pear shaped badges appeared about 1960. It could be an A10 tank?

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'65 and '66 twins had flat-bottomed tanks with pear-shaped Lucite badges. '63 and '64 twins had round badges, and in '67 they rolled the tank edge under and eliminated the outer seam.

I did find a 1964 BSA Star with a pear-shaped badge, but it also had a larger, not flat-bottomed tank, with kneepads - perhaps home market or large capacity touring tank. The '64s with the smaller tanks had round badges.


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64/65 dual carb bikes had round badges. 66 had a similar tank with pear shaped badges.

Hard to see the tank in the picture, but the rear of the tank appears to be a wide cut out, likely an A10 tank.


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The Roy Bacon book has a 3-4 (not counting fiberglass) listed, main problem being the crossover from 63 to 64 where he calls the 4 gal a "standard tank" I'm assuming that's what we call home market (UK) and then says the lightning got its own 4 gallon in 65 ( different from the "standard" of 64)

4 gallons have pear badge 2 gal have the round. He says 2, 2gal, steel and alloy. As well as an alloy 5 gallon option.

In another thread the cable relief for Monobloc lightning ( 4 gallon pear badge) was discussed, which could be bacons "new tank for lightning 1965" so the 64 lightnings would use the "standard" aka 60+ pear badged A10 tank. I'm considering making it a clubman replica (cause they're cool!)
Does the clubman 64-65 era have flat seam or round bottom? Cable reliefs for twin Monoblocs? Anyone have an underneath pic of a real 64-65 clubman tank ( not a repop)? A local shop had I think a 64 clubman, but it closed over a year ago (RIP Tike) so seeing one first hand isn't an option right now


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My LC replica. It is the “home market” tank with cutouts for the carb tops.

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The flat bottom round badge tank is the US market standard LR tank.


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Looks great!
I have a blank canvass with no tin, so my mind is wandering over the possibilities, the flat seam tank showed up in my Facebook marketplace as nearby billed as a 65 and it looks pretty unmolested
Is there a supplemental parts book for the clubman? I don't see that seat or rearsets or anything listed as an a65 l/r c in the 65 parts book I have




Do the rearsets mount to the normal peg boss with a bracket going back?


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Originally Posted by DAMadd
Looks great!
I have a blank canvass with no tin, so my mind is wandering over the possibilities, the flat seam tank showed up in my Facebook marketplace as nearby billed as a 65 and it looks pretty unmolested
Is there a supplemental parts book for the clubman? I don't see that seat or rearsets or anything listed as an a65 l/r c in the 65 parts book I have




Do the rearsets mount to the normal peg boss with a bracket going back?


The tank looks like a 66 to me, I agree with everything Rich said above, but they used the same basic tank through till 70 on different bikes, though by then they stopped pressing the badge recess.


Clubman bikes were parts bin specials made up of C15T (I think) brake pedals and Goldstar rear sets, mounted on to brackets which mount themselves on to various sections on the frame.
A push-me-pull-me brake linkage and a bent brake lever (either a bantam item or an A65 item, I beleive the original was bantam but I liked the bent A65 lever, the shortened lever allowed for a shorter shift throw.

Interestingly. The left hand foot rest bracket has 2 part numbers I have them both (nos) and there’s no difference between them.


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Some LC’s used modified C15 and Bantam brake pedals. There was also an actual P/N for a real live Clubman brake pedal. British Only in MI had 2 in stock at one point. I bought one of them and have the P/N somewhere.

I made everything else from sketches that someone had given me that were allegedly taken from a real LC. The sketches were sorta ok, more of a guide than accurate. The actual footrest brackets were GS parts.

I made drawings of the parts I have shared. Someone in the UK had gotten my drawings and were making dry frame rear sets for a while. Not sure if they are still available.


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After I posted that question I searched and found a number for the clubman seats (still being reproduced) and then rearset brackets, it led to the end of your bracket thread where you guys were discussing 5/16 vs 1/4 linkage rods!

The Classic Motorcycle Co. had a lightning clubman sitting there, when I was looking for parts for the 68 tbolt. They closed over a year ago. I remember looking closely at the side panels and determining they were different then what I was looking for. They weren't for sale, I was just trying to figure out what I needed. Didn't even glance at the rearsets I could kick myself for not taking a few pics


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Rich B supplied a LOT of information on the rearsets.
I have copies of it in my files.

I have most of a '66 Lightning that I want to rebuild as a clubman replica....."someday."

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Originally Posted by Rich B
Some LC’s used modified C15 and Bantam brake pedals. There was also an actual P/N for a real live Clubman brake pedal. British Only in MI had 2 in stock at one point. I bought one of them and have the P/N somewhere.

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I believe I bought the other 😅


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