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This is really insignificant but what does the 67 A65 aluminum gas cap with the twist T handle hinge with? A fancy bolt or just a cotter pin? Thanks, Gary


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I had the same question when I drilled out the old pin. It looked like a brass rivet. I replaced it with an M2 screw with nyloc nut.

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I used a cotter pin. I was searching around (the internet and parts bins, a few swap meets) for the correct one, but needed to move on.


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Originally Posted by DAMadd
I used a cotter pin.

Same here,
"works fine, lasts a long time"

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when using a replacement flip top, even if good quality, some need to be “Tweaked” to prevent tendency for the lock wing go past closed position.


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Original was a brass pin, peened over on both ends. Hard to replace once it's been removed. I used a tiny brass round-head machine screw and brass nut with flat washer and split washer. Looks quite "factory".


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I use a roll pin on mine, nothing sticking out at each end that way. same method as used on the later caps and much neater than a split pin.


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As an ex pat Brit living in UK I now have two languages--- American English and English English.
US cotter pin = UK split pin.

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Originally Posted by Tridentman
As an ex pat Brit living in UK I now have two languages--- American English and English English.
US cotter pin = UK split pin.

Tridentman, we should start a separate thread on language differences. I think it could possibly give the Y and -Y thread competition for a long running thread. (LOL)

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And on spellings of words. as well.

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I have a friend who refers to it as Traditional English and Simplified...

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Is there a different term for "hair pin?" Used in much the same way as a cotter or split pin, this device resembles the pins that women (and some men I suppose) put in their hair, with one straight side and one wavy side.


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"Is there a different term for "hair pin?" Used in much the same way as a cotter or split pin, this device resembles the pins that women (and some men I suppose) put in their hair, with one straight side and one wavy side."



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_pin

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"And on spellings of words. as well."

They could be listed on an aluminium plaque.

Colour of your choice

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In UK it is called an "R pin".

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Originally Posted by Tridentman
In UK it is called an "R pin".

R clip where i'm from but close enough....


As you may remember, depending on region theres about 50 ways of saying a "bread bun"

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You are correct Allan--- my bad!

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You could use McMaster for common american terminology:

Hairpin Cotter Pins - Also known as hitch pin clips and R-clips, these pins are easy to install and remove. Use them to secure the ends of clevis pins and shafts to keep components in place.
Cotter Pins - Also known as split pins, these have one prong slightly longer than the other so they’re easy to open. Bend prongs outward to secure. Use them to secure the ends of clevis pins and shafts to keep components in place.
Slotted Spring Pins - Also known as roll, tension, split, and expansion pins, these pins have a slot along one side that you squeeze closed to install them into unthreaded holes.
Coiled Spring Pins - These spiral pins remain flexible after installation, so they absorb shock and vibration better than slotted spring pins.
Clevis Pins - An alternative to bolts and rivets, these pins lock in place with a cotter pin. Choose a clevis pin and add your own cotter pin, or select a clevis pin that includes a reusable hairpin cotter pin.
Clevis Pins with Retaining Ring Groove - Slide the included retaining ring into the groove for a secure hold that takes up less space than a cotter pin.

The clevis pin with retaining ring groove would be a neat way to retain the flip cap as it does not have bent over sharp edges sticking out to catch on things and does not need a hammer and punch to install/remove.
McMaster has all these in stainless.

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Originally Posted by Allan G
Originally Posted by Tridentman
In UK it is called an "R pin".

R clip where i'm from but close enough....


As you may remember, depending on region theres about 50 ways of saying a "bread bun"
Hmm, it is shaped like an "R", isn't it. I like it.

Er, what's a bread bun?


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Originally Posted by DMadigan
You could use McMaster for common american terminology:

The clevis pin with retaining ring groove would be a neat way to retain the flip cap as it does not have bent over sharp edges sticking out to catch on things and does not need a hammer and punch to install/remove.
McMaster has all these in stainless.

Yes, commerce as needs forces standardization of terminology, especially now with so much internet and international shopping.

I like your idea for the filler cap pin. The securing ring could be a plain wire ring (circlip?), or it could be a C-clip (or is it an E-clip?).


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SO what are you going to call the pin that thold the kick start lever to the pinion ?
We call that a Cotter pin because it goes into a "cottered" joint


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