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Can anyone brief me on the value of the Floyd Clymer "Royal Enfield Interceptor Workshop manual" "736 Interceptor including the Indian Chief". It is available from Veloce Press. My specific questions are:
Does the manual apply to the Series 1A? It claims to apply to 1A and Series II.
Is there actually specific information about the Indian Chief? Or is it just generic Enfield info?
Does the manual offer anything beyond what is available in the Series 1A manual (which can be downloaded at the Interceptor Group Pages)?
Anything else you can tell me about this book?
I have a '67 1A Interceptor and a '59 Indian Chief in the garage.
Thanks very much
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The Clymer Enfield used an S2 motor and it was called the Chief.
When Floyd Clymer passed away the remaining engines were purchased by the Rickman Brothers who created the Enfield Matisse with them.

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OK. So when the manual says Indian Chief it is referring to the 750 motor not old Indian 700's like mine. Good. Thanks tomoil.
Is there any reason to purchase this book if I already have a 1A manual?


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Hi Al
The Clymer Chief had the S2 motor, not the S1A.

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I understand what you told me, tomoil. I get that the Indian uses the S2 motor. That's the answer to one of the three questions I asked (Thanks!).
The other two questions are to find out what the manual contains regarding S1A Interceptors. Does it offer anything more than can be found in the original 1967 S1A Owners manual. That manual can be downloaded from the Interceptor Group website.


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I'm by no means an expert on REs or Clymer Indians using RE motors. But this is the first time I have ever heard of a "Chief" using a Series II motor ??
I know Clymer had started selling SII motors in an Italian frame.... see link below.
https://burtonbikebits.net/floyd_clymer_interceptor_750cc/
But a model specifically called a "Chief" with a SII motor is news to me, and I'd like to know more about it.

Regarding Al's question about the Veloce copy of the Interceptor shop manual, I HAVE a copy.
AFAIK, Veloce only offers one Enfield shop manual, so I'm fairly certain I have the same one he's inquiring about.
And IMHO, it is nothing more than a reprint of the standard MK1 shop manual .
If you read the publisher's blurb, you will note that it says : " A faithful reproduction of the Factory Workshop manual originally published by Floyd Clymer in 1967. "
The 1-A made it's debut in early 1967 so it's unlikely the factory had material available to hand over to Clymer before they printed their own.
There is NOTHING specifically related to the changes made with the MK1-A,which is mainly the proprietary distributor that replaced the Lucas magneto, and the updated wiring that went with it .
I have an original copy of the Mk1-A owner's manual and AFAIK , there never was a shop manual specifically for that model.

And sorry to also say, there is not one thing in the Veloce copy that I can see specifically addressing the peculiarities of the 700cc Chief's build specs.Or ANY other Indian model for that matter.
Unfortunately, it seems the 50's Enfield Indians were lacking in model specific shop manuals.
Even the parts books aren't that great, as there's precious few photos and diagrams to know what the stuff looks like !

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Any confusion in this discussion is probably my fault - for not remembering the Clymer Indian - I have the older Enfield Indians taking up what little space is left in my brain. A quick check finds that my reference material refers to the Clymer Indian as 'Indian Enfield" or "Indian Enfield Interceptor" but one ad photo showing the side cover looks like it may have been named Indian Enfield Roadster 750.
LD - thanks very much for the info about the Clymer manual. Exactly what I needed to know. I did not want to buy a copy and find out it was just a Series ! manual - I already have a Series 1 manual.
Yes, the available Chief parts book is not only hard to read but, I think, pages are missing. There is a Repair and Overhaul manual for Trailblazer and Apache models. The manual for the RE Super Meteor has limited info (the model the Chief is based on). Hitchcock's has a wiring diagram, and I have some component repair manuals - Lucas and AMAL, and forks and Armstrong Shocks.
Thanks to all for answering my questions.


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