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The bike is advertised as a 67……Does the casting surface where the numbers are stamped look too smooth,…Perhaps restamped numbers?

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Looks like $1000 off the asking price for this one

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"T120R" should be a one-piece stamp. This one ISN'T.

And the two numbers "4" do not match photos of real serial numbers. Originals in 1967 at a serif at the bottom of "4".

Yes, I also believe that original numbers were "scrubbed" and the case was re-stamped.

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The "1" looks like a series of punch marks and the zero looks like an O, not 0. What Irish said about the 4 can be seen in this picture:
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Behind the 44 is what looks like remnants of the "ramped cams" symbol


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Must be one out of a sidecar outfit eh? lol.

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Also, NO "Bonneville" ever had "ramped cams."

And the last Triumphs to use the ramped cams wagon-wheel stamp were a few unit 1963 Triumph 6TA 650s.

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Originally Posted by Andy Higham
Behind the 44 is what looks like remnants of the "ramped cams" symbol


That's a number 4 stamped backward for some strange reason.


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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
The bike is advertised as a 67……Does the casting surface where the numbers are stamped look too smooth,…Perhaps restamped numbers?

You must have missed this listing on the Hot Links board.

https://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/877470/67-bonneville#Post877470


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Going by the way it rattles, it won't be on the road long anyway.

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The 4 behind the second 4 is not backward, whoever was holding the stamp had it 90 degrees clockwise. I guess they did not want to grind down the case and start again.

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Go to "Hot links forum - 67 Bonneville" for a discussion of altered numbers. This engine is obviously restamped.

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I agree with all the previous comments plus, the the casting seam to the right of the numbers has obviously been ground off. Unbelievable anyone could imagine this poor counterfeit would fool anyone.

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It only had to fool ONE person.

Unfortunately, IT DID.

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On the other hand--- playing Devils Advocate-----
The bike is a 1967.
Lets suppose that the bike was stolen in 1970, the engine was removed and had the number ground off and restamped by someone who was not too competent.
Then the bike was sold and used and then maybe was at the back of a shed for x number of years and then someone bought it and "restored" it.
Now he comes to sell it..
The restamping will put off potential buyers who want originality, matching numbers and the phlegm still there that was spat out on the seat by the Meriden test rider back in 1966.
However if you want a nice looking bike to ride and you are not too bothered by matching numbers and detailed originality then you might just buy it and ride it.
You will probably get it at an attractive price because some people will have been put off by the restampings etc.
And if you do buy it --what risk really do you run?
The original owner, and thief and the restamper are probably all dead by now---after all it is over 50 years ago.
At the end of the day IMHO bikes are for riding and enjoying.
Life is too short to worry your ass over obscure numbers.
Just my two cents worth of course.

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...the one that can buy it then can sand off those numbers and re stamp it right; however, very difficult to find the same fonts for those numbers and letters.
More difficult if the bike had been a later model with the pad with the logotype under the numbers.

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Just RIDE it, fine.

But SHOW it, NEVER.

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Originally Posted by Tridentman
On the other hand--- playing Devils Advocate-----
The bike is a 1967.
At least it's not a BSA with a Y stamped after the number and sold three years later as a "70" model. laughing
My A65 had engine and frame numbers which differed only by one digit in the middle of the number, one had a 5 where the other had a 3. It didn't have matching numbers from the factory!
I guess if it were a coin it would be more valuable? crazy


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