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Hello; nothing about motorcycles, but the forum is packed with knowledgeable People and I have this doubt since forever.

Obviously, we have been united for longer than we think; since the way to act; the ways to live and the language seem the same; what changes are the words. That is, from the basic to the abstract, it seems to be the same way when expressing it; just in other words.
Why is this so? Why are people's reaction the same?
From simple phrases like calling someone "Mom? The short answer" What? Or "Yes"? Or "I'm coming" to complex things. How in all the Languages that is the same? Or the words "yes" and "no" All have the same idea no matter what Language.
But as if everything starts from the same place; There have been different civilizations but it is all the same; How do they come to the same thing?
Even the houses have always been with the same idea. Or the Pyramids that you have in different civilizations? Why all with the same idea? It seems strange to me.

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Certain words are DEFINITE in meaning, such as "Yes, NO, MOM."

Other words are more abstract, requiring knowledge and education acquired in one's own society to understand them. The great American writer, humorist and scholar H.L. Mencken compiled a dictionary of words in "American English" to define the origins of many words not found in British dictionaries.

Someone famous (name slips me) once defined Britons and Americans as "One people, divided by a common language," and that is about right.

Examples from the world of automobiles give an easy example:

"Bonnet" - British, "Hood" - American

"Boot" - British: "Trunk - American

"Dynamo" - British, "Generator" - American

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I feel a sense of dé·jà vu regarding this conversation.
But then I'm a proponent of the cyclical big bang theory.


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Originally Posted by Irish Swede
Certain words are DEFINITE in meaning, such as "Yes, NO, MOM."

Other words are more abstract, requiring knowledge and education acquired in one's own society to understand them. The great American writer, humorist and scholar H.L. Mencken compiled a dictionary of words in "American English" to define the origins of many words not found in British dictionaries.

Someone famous (name slips me) once defined Britons and Americans as "One people, divided by a common language," and that is about right.

Examples from the world of automobiles give an easy example:

"Bonnet" - British, "Hood" - American

"Boot" - British: "Trunk - American

"Dynamo" - British, "Generator" - American


Fag (cigarette) English, something else American
Fanny American, something else English

And many others

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Gus Portokalos: "Give me a word, any word, and I show you that the root of that word is Greek."


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...the doubt is regarding the "idea" behind the Languages; that looks the same. If you call your Mother: "Mom"? and then she reply: "Yes"? or "what?" or "I m coming" etc; all those short answers and words are in all the Languages; included Asian Languages and African dialects; of course then you have longer answers; that, besides the construction of a sentence, are the same too.
How all end up with the same idea to express something is what I do not know.

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We catts have gotten by worldwide quite well with "meow" , "hiss", and "purr" for some millennium now.
Perhaps since all humanity comes from Adam and Eve (bible), or originated in Africa (Dr. Leakey), or even trundled out of the ocean on fins (Darwin), well, maybe the human world is made up of nothing but inbred people passing the first few words they ever learned on to the next multiples of generations, leaving them with no clue as to what the real world is about so that humanity can constantly strive to eliminate each other because of nothing more than mere words?
We catts would never........oops, gotta go, I see a mouse that will make a tasty snack..........

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"Clean parts in paraffin."
Imagine my confusion before Haynes started including a British to American glossary in the back of the manual.

It is interesting how similar common words are in Western languages. They are all derived from Latin or Greek, some are closer than others to these roots. English is a conglomerate. We had a perfectly good Saxon language until the Normans invaded. Ever since then nobody can spell. laugh


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Originally Posted by DavidP
Ever since then nobody can spell. laugh

Including speel chuck
Er........spall chick
No, wait a minute.....speck Schell

Dang it, I give upp!

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That's okay, spell check flags 'colour' too (as does this site.)
Word Perfect spell check always flagged my last name for have two T's instead of the proper Scottish (or New Jersey) one.


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David, your "spell check" comment reminds me of a story. It happened to a friend of mine, who worked for a local city.
His job was to use a computerized stencil-cutting program to make all the street signs, and any special signs for events, parking lots, etc. as required.

He was once ordered to make special signs for a city parking lot used by the local history society.
When he got them done and installed, his boss called him in, "You spelled some words wrong!"

His reply: "Spell-check never corrected me, so what happened?"

Investigation showed that the computer program ("programme") was produced in Sweden, using British word spellings.

After that, he always kept an AMERICAN dictionary at hand when making signs.

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In Europe it's even more confusing.
I had a Teacher of Welsh, whose family and first language was Welsh, that regaled that as part of an army 'how smart are you' exercise her father, at night, was parachuted 'somewhere'. Having landed and walking down a lane having encountered someone asked in English where was he, the someone looked vacant, so he asked again in Welsh, only to have the someone respond that he was in Normandy, France!!
Seems that the Celtic roots of the Welsh and local Normandy languages are very similar.


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