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With the news out about the 2022 BSA Goldstar, I'm curious to know what you all think?

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It looks ok. Not impressed with mufflers though. I'd change them to the traditional round style.


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Originally Posted by Gary E
It looks ok. Not impressed with mufflers though. I'd change them to the traditional round style.

Exactly my thoughts

If they could retain the original style bends I think that would help

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As I asked on the "Rod and Tappet forum:

"What does it WEIGH?"

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I LIKE IT. IT IS MUCH NICER THAN I EXPECTED IT TO BE,


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Looks better than I expected, with effort to replicate some of the shapes. Side panel (oil tank), rear frame loops, front fender, timing side, etc. As for the muffler, didn’t the originals have a similar shape? I always heard about the “twitter”. Never had one so may be wrong. To bad they radiators always have to be so prominent, but form follows function in reality. Wonder what the suggested cost will be?


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is it a competent motorcycle on its own merits? dunno yet.

sure, mahindra is trying to piggyback on the mystique of an earlier age. but if this identical machine had appeared in BSA showrooms in 1962, would it have put a dent in goldstar sales? i suspect 1962 BSA riders would have abandoned the original goldstar in droves for it.

have to see what its like when it goes into production, if it does.


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Very nice but again apart for the exhaust system,not to keen on the rear dampers either.
Looks the part on the video on Youtube at the Motorcycle museum


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Specification sheet for the “new” Gold Star

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Dual channel ABS, immobilizer, 70+ MPG, Pirelli with alloy wheels, Brembo brakes, USB charger. All good stuff and if its reliable and priced right it ought to sell to somebody, maybe. Depends on who is on the marketing team. If they could get a sexy somebody on it, Mahindra might improve their chances.

Obviously, the raced in anger crowd will be tough to sway.

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It has a swoopy droopy arse end that I dont like, the tank has a horrible flange and the pipe looks ridiculously big, the pattern goldie pipe looks too small to silence and let the goodness out, the gearbox end cover looks empty. Is it a recycled enfield?


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1452 mm wheel base = 56.1 ". Should handle in a familiar way. Seat height 780 mm, 30.7 ".

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Apart from the weight, the other motor numbers look like fun.


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It does look a lot like old time British. Of all the modern blkes and younger owners I wonder if any of them would be even interested. Of all us old guys that lusted for a Goldie, a Lightning, or a Bonneville back in the day, most of us have or had something a lot closer to the real thing. I guess if I was going to do some touring it might be nice to have something that looks British, has good brakes, handles well, has good lights, starts easy, and can run an interstate. OTOH, those days are over for me, so I'll just stick with what i have got. I have had a BSA of one sort or another for over 50 years.
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Most modern machines are fast, heavy, and quite tall, which aren't necessarily ideal as we age. A lot of people are also having trouble kick starting bigger machines and opting for smaller classics.

Royal Enfield seems to be quite successful in Australia and the UK with bikes which mix the rideability aspects of our older machines with modern mechanical improvements, so the new BSAs should find a ready market provided Mahindra has competitive pricing and a good dealer network.


Possibly starting off with a Gold Star is a courageous decision. It will be interesting to see what else is in the range.

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I am impressed with the looks and the power delivery looks reasonable but I would want to see a torque curve .
Obviously marketedly our generation which is some what of a "Brave decision Prime Minister " to quote sir Humphrey.
Does look appealing to my eye
Nothing like what I was expecting.
Won't be opening the wallet for one though , not at least till it has been around for long enough to see if they have done sufficient developement & testing.


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The USB socket will probably sell it to a lot of 'bikers' now.
As long as it doesn't scratch their nail varnish.

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Looks ok, but I don’t like the radiator, and it’s missing some parts. How does it start without a kick starter? I’ve never had a bike without one. I’ll stick with my Victor.

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At 213kg/470 pounds wet its heavy, all that extra equipment has its downsides. Tempting as it looks. for backlane scratching I will stick with my 300lb Victor and continue to use the 420lb 850 Commando for the local good B roads and A roads.

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All things considered I think they have done quite a good job of producing a modern looking BSA it all depends now on price performance and reliability.

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My take is the same as with the New Bonnievilles.
They could have built them this way in the mid 70s.

Looks like a hoot.
Let's see what the local MSRP looks like.

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Cummon guys, it looks bloomin' brilliant!

Sure it isn't original, but remember that "the original" went bust because no body wanted them!
The "original" bikes only keep going by us old guys chasing our lost youth, (and there is nothing wrong with that!). This looks to me like what BSA should have become.

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To my mind, the Mahindra BSA looks more like a Classic Cruiser rather than a sleek boy's own racer. The large radiator and chunky exhaust dont help in this respect and combined with the relatively short wheelbase, I feel the bike has a slightly dumpy look.

Don't get me wrong, I think Mahindra BSA have done a fabulous job of building a bike that BSA might have produced some years after they went bust and I wish them success with future sales.

It's interesting that they decided on a capacity of 652cc and a 11.5:1 cr together with a 4 valve head and fuel injection. Presumably, the engine is in a detuned state for reliability and perhaps their plan is to produce a sportier version in due course. I assume balance shafts have been built in to reduce vibration which could be problematic with large capacity singles.

The brakes seem excellent especially as they have ABS and no doubt the suspension is of good quality.

I would have liked to have seen something with a slightly longer wheelbase and lower bars, which perhaps would have made it more compatible with todays faster roads, but perhaps that's something for the future.

Overall though, great to see something new coming out.

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The new Bonnies went to fuel injection shortly after I bought mine in 2006.
Fuel Mapping is modern and a way better fuel/air mixer when working right, and a disaster if not right.
Harley Davidson suffered that pain.

I corresponded with Mule, via Pipeburn, at short length about remapping the Bonnie fuelies for performance,
much like I can chip my F-350 .
At the time he rather poo pood it and discouraged it.

I don't doubt that being a fuelie is the best bet for a modern bike.

Technically beyond self repair system for me.

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