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Starting a new 1968 B44 project. Came with a Ceriani fork system but I want stock forks. Need lowers, shuttle parts, front wheel axle and headlight ears. If someone has a complete set of forks I can buy, please let me know. Ceriani’s will be available when I sort out the front end.

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Roadwarrior.......need a little more information. Shooting Star or Victor Special? Trying to get it back to stock or one of the other BSA unit single options?

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Hi Gordon, It’s been awhile. It’s a Victor Special. Trying to get back to stock. Need other stuff as well, but concentrating on front end for now.


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I think I have a mostly complete set up for an early 1968 Victor Special. I'll take a peek later today.
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Sorry-false alarm! The forks I had were sold with a project a few weeks ago.

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Rats.


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Well damn, I'm trying to help the OP but I'm not doing very well so I need some help even if this is a little embarrassing.

WAIT....excuses first. I haven't worked on a VS front end in over 10 years. I've been focused on the street version. When I dissembled rollers....I figured " I'll never forget what this came off of" and a little of "Well they're pretty much all the same". So I didn't label most of my spare front ends. blush

Now I need to ID a VS front end and hopefully a 1968 if there happens to be any difference.

Pretending to know the isn't going to help. I don't really have time to research it either. I know there's folks on here that KNOW so I'm asking for help.

This looks VS to me but I can't even guess what year. ( these are damper rod)

Thanks in advance for the help, Gordon in NC

PS......if it helps the fender brackets are the cast/braze type ( heavy duty?)

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Steve or kommando…….can you guys tell if this front end is correct for a VS???

And…was there something special ( different) about the 68s front end.

More photos if needed.

You’re going to make me work for it….Gordon.

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Looks like a 69/70 front end. Only difference I know of is the headlite ears.

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Thanks Steve. What makes it not a 68? Headlight ears? If so what’s the difference?

Thanks in advance.

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68 ears had a smaller tank indentation... and I'm not sure that it didn't carry over into early 69...?

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That’s what I needed Steve. My records show I should have at least 3 VS front ends and at least one is a 68. I’ll drag them out this weekend and compare. After going down that rabbit hole with the clutch nut I’d rather send him a complete front end so I’m “pretty” sure things will fit.

Take care…..stay healthy and thanks again for the help.

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Gordon: The indent on my 69 B44VS headlight ears measures 3 5/8" by 1 1/4". I looked at your photos and cannot see any difference from my 69 but I appreciate that the changes can be very subtle.

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Thanks Gordon.


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Originally Posted by Gordo in Comox
Gordon: The indent on my 69 B44VS headlight ears measures 3 5/8" by 1 1/4". I looked at your photos and cannot see any difference from my 69 but I appreciate that the changes can be very subtle.

Gordo

I have a 69 VS in my records......I'm thinking that it's forks.

I still have more headlight ears to look through but so far I've only found one example of the "smaller" indent. Give me till tomorrow and I'll post some photos of the two. ( if nobody else does first)

No problem Roadwarrior.......didn't you mention you already had the ears?

Gordon in NC

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Thanks for those dimensions Gordo thumbsup (I couldn't find a face plant emoji laughing )

It would be nice if I could figure out a way to actually remember things. Having the book is a must.....so is reading it. But remembering what you read?

All credit goes to Rupert Ratio

Apologize for the poor photos, Gordon in NC

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Wanna swap? I’ve got a whole setup triple trees, forks n maybe a wheel

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HB…. I’m sending him the lowers today. I “think” he’s got most of the rest. But IMO a man can never have enough spares.

All that said I’ve spent the past few days trying to ID the forks I have here and make sure I label them for the next guy. I’ve gone through this before but I forget more than I learned. A close friend of mine said my mind is like filling up a 5 gallon bucket with water. It’s only going to hold so much and if you try to overfill it….some pours out. Most of this front end stuff was overflow.

I REALLY want someone around the next campfire to comment on how the unit singles were pretty much all the same. laughing As an example look back at those headlight ears. Those three represent just 4 years and we’ve already been down the late and early model runs swapping of parts leaving the factory. crazy

Take care……it’s been a long time…..Gordon in NC

PS….the forks pictured turned out to be 1970 IF you go by the lower triple. Of course it could have left the factory on a late 1969.

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Good eye Gordon... forgot all about the 70 lower triple.

Of course all your 70 fork parts could be used on a 68, no problem.

Chant the mantra... "good thing about BSA unit singles is that so many of the parts are similar, bad thing about BSA unit singles is that so many of the parts are similar".

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Originally Posted by Steve Erickson
Good eye Gordon... forgot all about the 70 lower triple.

Of course all your 70 fork parts could be used on a 68, no problem.

Chant the mantra... "good thing about BSA unit singles is that so many of the parts are similar, bad thing about BSA unit singles is that so many of the parts are similar".

Love the mantra!! So true.

I’ll be well versed on the front ends……..for a couple of weeks then I’ll forget most of it again. I went down this road when I upgraded the front end on my sidecar rig. I read through all those pages but very little if any of it stuck.

Gordon in NC

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GG they look 69/70, what was the change on the triple tree, the pinch bolts going to 3/8". I do this to all mine as it firms up the front end assembly so forgot when that change came in wink

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Originally Posted by kommando
GG they look 69/70, what was the change on the triple tree, the pinch bolts going to 3/8". I do this to all mine as it firms up the front end assembly so forgot when that change came in wink

Hard for me to describe but it's the placement for the "cut?" that allowed the pinch bolts to do their job. Angled for 69. 70 was a straight cut between the legs.

Not sure about pinch bolt size changing. I still have my whole front ends on the shop floor....I'll take a look at that.

Gordon

Apologize for the blurry photos.

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Everything worked out perfectly. I’ll have the wheels in this week, new Jones rims and spokes from Buchanans.


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