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Glad to help. Ironically, I bid on a 42-4778 on UK fleaBay about 10 days ago but didn't get it. I'll see if I can find the item number and post it do you can see what it looks like.


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Hey Pokie, check this out: - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Barn-Find-Motorcycle-Side-Stand-ref-D12-/184817234546?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Y954Ecm2k6Xk1%252B5jMYsRp0vQubs%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I was a cheapskate and wanted a steal so didn't get it. Looking at the bikes in the garage today, the stand I put on the Cyclone is about 2" shorter than the one on the Lightning but the same casting number 67-4889. They must have lengthened the die for the taller A65 frame and I suspect, given the longer stand the 68- part number.


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Side Stand 42-4778

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My 42-4778 from 1969 looks like this:
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Originally Posted by Ola
My 42-4778 from 1969 looks like this:
[Linked Image from oseose.webs.com]
That looks to be the typical 67-4889 utilized from '64 thru '70. There is usually a raised casting number on it.


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Gary -
Confusing. I can not find 67-4889 in the parts list. Is it listed for an other motorcycle? BSA's paperwork is fascinating :-)


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Casting numbers are normally one out from final part.

So looking for 67-4888 gets

https://www.baxtercycle.com/product/67-4888/

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*stamped 67-4889*

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Originally Posted by kommando
Casting numbers are normally one out from final part.

So looking for 67-4888 gets

https://www.baxtercycle.com/product/67-4888/

Description
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*stamped 67-4889*

Interesting, looks identical to the T item that BBB sells.


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Originally Posted by VicCyclone
Hey Pokie, check this out: - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Barn-Find-Motorcycle-Side-Stand-ref-D12-/184817234546?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Y954Ecm2k6Xk1%252B5jMYsRp0vQubs%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I was a cheapskate and wanted a steal so didn't get it. Looking at the bikes in the garage today, the stand I put on the Cyclone is about 2" shorter than the one on the Lightning but the same casting number 67-4889. They must have lengthened the die for the taller A65 frame and I suspect, given the longer stand the 68- part number.
Vic,....I tried to view the ebay item, but to no avail. Anywhoo, sorry you didn't get it. Your take on the Cyclone stand and subsequent tweaking in casting spec seems reasonable ..... what a tangled web Small Heath wove, eh? Looks like Gary just added a post photo that clears some air. Cheers

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Originally Posted by Gary E
Side Stand 42-4778

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Yikes!.....in the flesh, even. Thanks Gary

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The 1 digit difference between part number and casting number applies to British car parts, as well.

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Originally Posted by Ola
Gary -
Confusing. I can not find 67-4889 in the parts list. Is it listed for an other motorcycle? BSA's paperwork is fascinating :-)
That's what is mostly what this thread is about. The fact that the part number and the drawing in the Spares manual for several model years is incorrect. Was not ever updated like other parts in the maunuals. What the factory shows and what they supplied for multiple years is not the same.


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Originally Posted by Ola
Gary -
Confusing. I can not find 67-4889 in the parts list. Is it listed for an other motorcycle? BSA's paperwork is fascinating :-)

67-4888 is the stand originally used on the plunger A10. I have one fitted to my Cyclone. The A65 stand commonly used from 65 on has the same casting number 67--4889 but is normally longer. Interesting that the 1970 master price list shows 68-4757 as referenced in the 1965 A65 parts catalogue but also 68-4760, 68-4767 and 68-4768 all listed as prop stand or prop stand leg. Who knew there were so many prop stands? The master price list gives you an indication of how many variations there were of everything on these bikes. For example there are 12 yes 12 A65 battery carriers listed.


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Vic,.... The extent of the chaos is unsettling ..... One might think this much disorganization could contribute to corporate failure eventually? Also, I really wish you had added a couple quid to your ebay bid and won that stand ..... Looks like it might be the only one ever made.

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Originally Posted by VicCyclone
[>>>Interesting that the 1970 master price list shows 68-4757 as referenced in the 1965 A65 parts catalogue<<<

The 68-4757 in the '65 manual is shorter than the multiple year 67-4888. The Spitfire Hornet uses it. Why...I don't know.

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