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Are these $27 e-bay tachometers from India any good? I smell a rat!


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I don't know exactly what you're looking at.
I bought a "Smiths" gauge from India once. It looked okay, but I couldn't use it. The threads where the cable connects are all wrong.
I think that Emgo is now making their tachs with the 3:1 ratio for BSA.


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I've fitted a couple of the emgo ones, they
are a bit deeper than the originals but work fine.

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I bought a couple of those Indian made speedo ones.
You generally need to buy the cable also.
The ads mention a metric size on the back of the speedo.

I also bought the speedo drive also, as a set.
They look good, haven't got to try them yet ...
The speedos on Enfields seem to be OK, so hopefully these are based on those.

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Originally Posted by DavidP
I don't know exactly what you're looking at.
I bought a "Smiths" gauge from India once. It looked okay, but I couldn't use it. The threads where the cable connects are all wrong.
I think that Emgo is now making their tachs with the 3:1 ratio for BSA.

Well, if you go to E-bay motors and do a search for 1968 BSA Tachometer, it will show several tachometers really cheap for like $27., from India


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The Indian clocks use the Chronometric thread on the clocks, so you have to then buy a cable that fits a Smiths speedo drive or tacho drive one end and a Chronometric the other. It can be done but they are not good enough to be worth the effort.

I have found the Emgo clocks very good and you can use the OIF mounts to cater for the longer body.

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Originally Posted by kommando
The Indian clocks use the Chronometric thread on the clocks, so you have to then buy a cable that fits a Smiths speedo drive or tacho drive one end and a Chronometric the other. It can be done but they are not good enough to be worth the effort.

I have found the Emgo clocks very good and you can use the OIF mounts to cater for the longer body.
So just to confirm...the OIF rubber cups accommodate the emgo gauges? Just wondering if the bottom of those cups can be modified and mounted on the earlier pre OIF gauge mounts

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Just some trimming of 2 rubber internal protuberances on the OIF that take the two 2ba studs on the Smiths speedo if you are fussy about the bottom being pushed out a bit, just double checked. The OIF rubber just is not stiff enough on the bottom and lower sides to provide support, the ring mount area is the only firm area about 3/4 way up the sides. The OIF mount will fit a pre OIF fork top nut.

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DPO, I would not buy a $27 Tach ! I've seen them for $16 a while back. I saw a thread from a guy (another forum?) who said it lasted a couple of days or some such. I think these are the perfect item for a shyster flipping a bike and needing to fool the buyer. I bought the EMGO one for $65 and it is working perfectly.


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Originally Posted by kommando
Just some trimming of 2 rubber internal protuberances on the OIF that take the two 2ba studs on the Smiths speedo if you are fussy about the bottom being pushed out a bit, just double checked. The OIF rubber just is not stiff enough on the bottom and lower sides to provide support, the ring mount area is the only firm area about 3/4 way up the sides. The OIF mount will fit a pre OIF fork top nut.

Kommando, any chance you can post of a photo of how that looks? I am in the position of either sending my Smiths speedo & rev counter away to be re-conditioned for $225 each, or buying Emgo replacements at about $125 each.

Being the skinflint, tightwad that I am, the latter was looking attractive but the warning on the vendors web site that the Emgo's were deeper than the originals and didn't fit the rubber cups exactly had stopped me in my tracks. Would really appreciate knowing what the Emgo's in OIF rubber cups look like.

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Will post some pics over the weekend including inside of the rubber showing where the trimming could take place for a more perfect fit. Got some digging and dusting to do first as the bike with the tacho fitted is right in the back wink

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Thank you. Much appreciated.

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Originally Posted by DPO
Are these $27 e-bay tachometers from India any good? I smell a rat!


At $27, just buy one and test it out for us. You will spend $27 at the Waffle House for you and your lady and have nothing to show for it, so buy the tach and test it wink


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Originally Posted by Jon W. Whitley
Originally Posted by DPO
Are these $27 e-bay tachometers from India any good? I smell a rat!


At $27, just buy one and test it out for us. You will spend $27 at the Waffle House for you and your lady and have nothing to show for it, so buy the tach and test it wink

You’d have had a belly full of waffles I’d hope grin


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It would be nice if the two forum moderators could keep us on topic here, please.. grin

That said, we just watched the highlights of Phil the Greek's send off. Nicely tucked up, if you ask me.
Now it's all back to the palace for kebab and chips, mushy peas with mint sauce, washed down by some
Newcastle Brown Ale. Now, that's a good do.

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i have a repop speedo in an OIF rubber, you have to stretch the rubber a bit and cut bits off the bottom, it just fits, works well, the strain on the rubbers shortens their already short life, buy spares.
it wasnt 27$, more like 70 quid. I feel robbed.

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If it’s any constellation I thought I was keeping it on topic, I’d rather pay my $27 on waffles than for an el’cheapo knock off smiths instrument. I’m not a large chap but I do like food. grin

Never known of mint sauce with mushy peas but each to their own, my preference is tartar sauce mixed with mushy peas. Yum!

I’ve never been a fan of brown ale since i was badly on Mann’s brown ale when I was 18, it had nothing to do with the fact that I had been to a beer festive and got very sozzled before hand. It was the brown ale that finished me off. If you find your self in Southern Ireland (like near Cork), get yourself a pint of Beamish. It makes Guinness seem like pop.


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Originally Posted by Jon W. Whitley
Originally Posted by DPO
Are these $27 e-bay tachometers from India any good? I smell a rat!


At $27, just buy one and test it out for us. You will spend $27 at the Waffle House for you and your lady and have nothing to show for it, so buy the tach and test it wink
My point was that unless you can find or build a special cable to fit these gauges you can't test them.
I resold the one I bought.


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OIF cup internal showing 1 of 2 internal recesses for studs on Smiths clocks at top of inside, second is 180 degrees away.

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I cut these off and then the Emgo clock fits without the bottom bulging out, one becomes the hole for the light fitting, 2 holes left, one for original Smiths light fitting which is 90 degrees out and a surplus stud recess, a thin rubber disc on the inside will cover these if needed.

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From side

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And from top

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Kommando, thank you very much. Looks okay.
I will buy a set of Emgo's and modify the OIF rubber cups to match and post details.

Ignore the mod's, waffling on.

Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by S-NJ-W
Kommando, thank you very much. Looks okay.
I will buy a set of Emgo's and modify the OIF rubber cups to match and post details.

Ignore the mod's, waffling on.

Thanks again.

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Allan, I bought an Emgo Tach for my Triumph. It works smoothly, but is a few hundred rpm optimistic.....


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Originally Posted by S-NJ-W
Ignore the mod's, waffling on.

Originally Posted by S-NJ-W
It would be nice if the two forum moderators could keep us on topic here, please.. grin

Seriously, what are you trying to accomplish with these statements? That's two posts where you have mentioned the mods in this thread. Do you have an issue that you need to resolve? If you have a beef of some sort, I'd like to hear it and maybe Allan would too? If so, you can post it here or you can PM me. I am truly interested if you have been "miffed" in some sort of weird way, which is what it appears to be judging by your posts. Otherwise, if you have no issue, quit mentioning the mods. If you do, then, contact one or both of us.


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Jon, I got no issues with Moderators. Just my poor attempt at humour. If you didn't like it, I apologize.
No issues, not miffed, no beef.

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Originally Posted by S-NJ-W
Jon, I got no issues with Moderators. Just my poor attempt at humour. If you didn't like it, I apologize.
No issues, not miffed, no beef.

Hard to tell sometimes. I am glad you clarified and thank you.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming beerchug


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