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Just wondering if anyone on here knows of a good tank dent removal guy in SoCal area. I’ve found a very nice original tank for 1968 T100C project except for a couple of decent dents. Not sure if the best idea is to buy a nice tank with a couple of dents or buy a not so nice tank with minor or no dents.

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May be able to help you. I have a friend who has done a lot of this sort of work. Problem is he is old and sort of burnt out from dealing with the public and does not always accept work. If he did agree to do the work the tank has to be stripped to bare metal with no inside tank lining evident. He lives in Anaheim and I will probably see him this weekend. Those dents do not look bad,


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I have a stud welder that you can borrow if you want to try yourself. I used it to pull a dent out of the Boxster. Works pretty good.

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Originally Posted by slow learner
May be able to help you. I have a friend who has done a lot of this sort of work. Problem is he is old and sort of burnt out from dealing with the public and does not always accept work. If he did agree to do the work the tank has to be stripped to bare metal with no inside tank lining evident. He lives in Anaheim and I will probably see him this weekend. Those dents do not look bad,

I heard of a guy in that area! Rumor was he was very good! The paint is original so a shame to strip it, but if that’s what’s required, the so be it. No coating inside.

I’d be very grateful if you would ask him if he’d consider this.

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Originally Posted by DMadigan
I have a stud welder that you can borrow if you want to try yourself. I used it to pull a dent out of the Boxster. Works pretty good.

Thanks for the offer Dave! I’ve never done anything like this and I’m hoping this bike can be finished to a very high standard, so if I can find someone who actually does this I think I’d prefer that. If I can’t find anyone I might have to take a shot at it!

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There is a great guy here in North Georgia/ western South Carolina who welds studs to the outside, then heats and pulls the dent. Then he has an entire set of special hammers that are able to reach in through the fill hole and tap out the remainder. You'll end up with some "bondo", but it's generally less than 1 tablespoon per tank.

PM me if you need a name and address. He's currently doing my BMW tank which got smacked back on Aug 1, 2020.

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Originally Posted by Ian Ashdown
The paint is original so a shame to strip it

Exactly. If the paint was still very nice overall, I would do everything in my power to avoid stripping the tank.

There are videos on youtube of guys inflating inner tubes to push dents out from the inside of motorcycle gas tanks. I'm sure not all dents can be cured in this fashion, but definitely worth a shot.


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I can't think of a better excuse to ride the Three State Mountain Ride in May 2021. laughing[/quote]

Just a week ago you were about dead and off bikes forever!

I don't think there is any way you will not have to paint the tank. So plan on at least some stripping


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Slow Learner, sounds like you're seeing Mike. Please tell him I said Hello... been too many years.

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Hi,

I think we’re talking about the same person, Mike Y? I’ve always understood he was ‘the man’ for this kind of stuff. If you do meet up with him, please plead my sad case! 😉

I have a phone number for him, but it’s been a long time.



“ I don't think there is any way you will not have to paint the tank. So plan on at least some stripping”.

I’m sure that true, sadly. The paint on this tank is lovely and I’m a sucker for keeping original finished wherever possible, but the paint is already damaged in the area of the dent so there is ultimately no saving it. Fortunately I know a really good painter, not inexpensive, but really good.

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Huuuuuulllllllllooooooo,

Did you investigate the use of inner tubes placed inside the gas tank to press out dents ?


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Ok Ian, with qualifications, Mike is willing to work on your tank. Send me a PM and we can discuss how this can happen.


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Not yet! I’m waiting on a new price for the tank, given that the damage was not initially know, buy me or the seller. It was priced quite high, but given the original condition of the paint etc I was OK with it. But if I have $500, $600 or $700 to fix the damage and then re-paint, the price of the tank needs to be ‘adjusted’.

I found a bladder for an exercise ball that would seem to be about the right size. If I go forward with the tank I’ll try it first. I do need to get a good regulator so I can control the pressure.

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Ian,

I have a couple of 500 tanks. If you are going to strip the one you have, I will swap one of my tanks with you. I also have a 1968 T100R but am keen for the T100C scheme. I would really like to see more pictures of your tank if possible ?


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I don’t know what I’m going to do quite yet! But I’ll certainly consider you idea. I’ve requested some more pictures, but these may help for now.

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Ian, if Mike will work on your tank, just do it.

It will be perfect.

-Though I'd really be tempted to leave as is if original paint... depending on the bike I guess.

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His reputation precedes him!

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Pop to your local body shop and ask if they can recommend a paint-less dent removal firm. Many times they can work the dent and leave the paint unscathed. I'm not usually too fussy about original paint but that tank looks real good!


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Not too bad for a 53 year old paint job!

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The decision is, of course, yours as to how to proceed with this. I'm not a tin basher but I've known Mike since before he started doing this and I've known the guy he initially learned from even longer. On that basis, I will offer a little advice. Be very careful if you try to use compressed air to pop the dents out. The flat panels of the tunnel and the bottoms will often get bowed before the dents move. If that happens, and the tank "balloons" you are screwed. You don't want to put more than about 3psi of pressure in a tank. The paintless dent removal is a viable option but the problem is the filler neck is on the right side of the tank and the dents are on (I believe) the left. The makes reaching the dents through the neck really hard. Welding on studs might work for some but if you make a hash of it you will get little sympathy when you ask someone else to fix what you have messed up. It's kind of like medical practice, the first rule is to do no harm.


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And one with what's left of an original decal.


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Originally Posted by slow learner
The decision is, of coarse, yours as to how to proceed with this. I'm not a tin basher but I've known Mike since before he started doing this and I've known the guy he initially learned from even longer. On that basis I will offer a little advise. Be very careful if you try to use compressed air to pop the dents out. The flat panels of the tunnel and the bottoms will often get bowed before the dents move. If that happens, and the tank "balloons" you are screwed. You don't want to put more than about 3psi of pressure in a tank. The paintless dent removal is a viable option but the problem is the filler neck is on the right side of the tank and the dents are on (I believe) the left. The makes reaching the dents through the neck really hard. Welding on studs might work for some but if you make a hash of it you will get little sympathy when you ask someone else to fix what you have messed up. It's kind of like medical practice, the first rule is do no harm.

Hi,

Thank you for your thoughts.

One of my favorite movie quotes: “A man’s got to know his limitations”. And I know some of mine! One of which is time! I think it will be smart to focus on what I can do, and have time to do, and do well, and let others do what they do well. Unless I just can’t find anyone willing to help, then I’ll jump in and try to learn a new skill.

As an engineer, I’m very aware of the potential damage and even injury when using compressed gas. I’ve had a racing kart tire blow up in my face, no injury but damm scary! If I do try the bladder method, as a last resort, I’ll fill it mostly with water, use the tank mounts to bolt to a plate to stabilize the geometry of the tank. The whole concept of using pressure is P S I. In this case there are relatively few I’s and that means more P. That’s where things can start to get ugly!

I’ve seen pressure used to great effect to take dents out of exhaust pipes, but that’s a very different dynamic.

Mike is my No 1 choice. I’m going to do what I can to persuade him to take this on. He is the best I know of, and while he’s fixing the tank, I’ll be happily working away on something I’m much better suited to!

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Originally Posted by Boomer
And one with what's left of an original decal.


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Nice! Are you soliciting bids?

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Originally Posted by Ian Ashdown
I don’t know what I’m going to do quite yet! But I’ll certainly consider your idea. I’ve requested some more pictures, but these may help for now.

I'm very serious. If you are considering stripping the original paint off of that tank in order to fix those dents, please heavily consider swapping it for one of my tanks. To strip that tank would be ludicrous, not to mention it would look perfect on my 1968 Daytona and we'd all be very happy.


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Originally Posted by Ian Ashdown
Originally Posted by Boomer
And one with what's left of an original decal.


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Bill B...

Nice! Are you soliciting bids?

Ian
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No, its for my '68 T100C.


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