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Well I had a minor tip over right in the garage, the Trident went over onto the left side and came to rest on the foot peg mount just as gentle as you please... or so I thought.

The mount is bent up a few degrees, enough so that shifting and even riding will be uncomfortable.

Will I do harm to this mount casting by heating to bend back ever so slightly...? I can well imagine that a replacement is not available.

Thanks for any advise here.

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Heating and bending using a lever is fine---that is the way I have done them over the years--starting by needing to get them straight after coming off due to over exuberant cornering 60 years ago!
I normally take the footrest off the bike and clamp it in the vice and then heat and lever it straight.
May need repainting afterwards.
Best of luck!
Nice bike by the way.
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As TM says.....They are forged steel and can handle the red hot situation. Let cool on their own...


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Perfect, thanks you guys. I will indeed remove the mount, I will be careful and yes, repaint.

I applicate the feedback.

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When I first got my Trident, almost 40 years ago, I was living at my parents' house. My father hated me having a bike (which was actually somewhat understandable under the circumstances, but that is a different story) and twice, while pulling his car into the garage, "accidently" tapped my bike, causing it to tip over on the foot peg. Both times the foot peg was bent up, and more than just a few degrees. Both times I straightened cold and on the bike with a piece of pipe for leverage and a large pal holding the bike from tipping over. $0 years later there is no evidence of problems resulting from the "cold" straightening. I am no metallurgist, and heat might very well be preferred, but cold straightening worked for me back then.

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edunham,
Good to know as well that the mount can go back cold. I removed the left side mount and I'll give it a try with heat later today, waiting for the garage to warm up.
My only dilemma is how far to go with bringing it back to be comfortable, I eye-balled it prior to removable and I think I have a good idea of how far to pull it down and from where to heat it. Looks as if the bend at the peg will do it.
I have new rubbers so that is a plus too.

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I've straightened them cold before also. After all, they bend cold...


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The best position for the footrests is not to make them horizontal IMHO.
Think of the angle that you lower leg makes when in position on the footrest.
Your leg starts off at the top of the lower leg close to the rear of the gas tank and where the front of the seat is at its narrowest.
The lower leg then goes down splayed out at an angle to sit on the footrest.
You really need the footrest to be at 90 degrees to the angle of the lower leg when you are sitting on the bike.
This gives you the most comfortable riding position and also gives you good ground clearance when cornering.
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These are not steel fogings, tooling casts would be too high. They are malleable cast iron, cast iron heat treated to drive the carbon out to give the component steel like physical properties. As the inner core may still be brittle heating before bending is advisable even if they do bend cold.

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How interesting that you guys bring up the angle to bring the peg(s) back to. I have put considerable thought into this very issue. I also agree on the 90 degrees to the lower leg as Tridentman mentions. There is also the thought that the outside bumper of the rubber would keep the foot from slipping off... maybe not.

I did attach all manner of protractors and angle finders on the peg to try and determine the correct angle to return it to. I will not embarrass myself showing you all of that... As best I can tell, about 10 degrees up from horizontal will do it.

I heated up the offended elbow and gave it steady pressure until it was as good as I think it should be. I'll mount it back up when it is cool and show you.

Thanks for the input.
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Just remember that if you don't get the DS peg bent down far enough you will need to loosen it to remove the clutch cover.


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I found this to be an acceptable position. Paint and a new rubber tomorrow. Clutch cover accessible. wink

Thanks for the input on bending this back.

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Rob--that looks horizontal to me---unless the photo is deceiving?
I thought that you were aiming for it to be angled upwards a little?

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Tridentman,
It is a bit lower than I first thought I would go with however, the position feels very comfortable. I had heated and bent the peg down being very cautious about not going too far. Let it cool and mounted the peg back on, tightened up snug, lowered the lift and gave it a sit.

The peg still felt jut a tad too high and turned in so as to, over time during a ride possibly make my arthritic left knee sore. My leg is so neutral in sitting astride the Trident that I want to cater to making it as comfortable as possible. I even took the time to sit on the Bonneville on a lift right next to the Trident for comparison, the pegs on that are fairly flat as well.

So I reheated and pulled it down a bit more.

I'll give it a sit again in the morning and go from there. We are in the throes of a Huge snow event so I can experiment tomorrow.

Thanks,
Rob


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Sounds good--a comfortable stance for you as the rider is what it important. This varies rider to rider as we all differ in terms of leg length, height etc.
I know what you mean about the snow----we have 24" here in Joooisey and another 24 hours to go according to the forecasters.
Keep warm and keep safe!

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Originally Posted by Tridentman
Sounds good--a comfortable stance for you as the rider is what it important. This varies rider to rider as we all differ in terms of leg length, height etc.
I know what you mean about the snow----we have 24" here in Joooisey and another 24 hours to go according to the forecasters.
Keep warm and keep safe!

T Man,
Wow, 24"...? We only had about 8-10" of accumulation of light. fluffy snow but then 3" of SLEET...! That stuff is just ridiculous to try to move.

So on the Triumph front I checked the position one more time, painted the pegs and I'll bolt them up tomorrow. Gonna be a long Winter, this rig will be all nice and shiny by Spring. smile

Be Well,
Rob


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Just got back to the Trident... Been working on the Bonneville grin and moving snow. frown

All good now.


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