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As I was looking around tonight, this one came up https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/d/springfield-1964-royal-enfield/7087422990.html .
I don't know much about Enfields, but just the front brake looks too new.
Signals and other points also point to a newer bike.
The motor and frame I don't know about.
So, is it a newer bike being claimed as older or an older bike updated?

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Almost certainly not a 1964 model, more like 2004. It is an Indian Enfield, from Madras in India not Springfield MA and not from Redditch. Pretty much standard, brake and all, left hand gear lever, mikuni or similar carb but definitely not a '64. The money is about right though.

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Why buy anything from such a blatant liar?


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Thanks. I thought I should ask before posting it.

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I would agree with the above - the 4th photo appears to show an engine mount nut just visible behind the oil filler - if so, it is a Madras frame, and not 1964. Would also not, of course, have a disc brake or that style of rear shock. Nor would it have had the gear change on the left - I may be wrong, but I do not think Enfield India produced a left hand change until the mid 2000's. Cheers, Bevan

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It is all 21st century, frame and everything else.
No title so maybe worth $1200.

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Just so everyone can see the bike in question before the link goes away.

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Another hint: That style frame wasn't used on Redditch Enfields after 1956.

The factory in India still uses it today.

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If you go back and look at the original ad, it now says while in India he rebuilt it to modern specs. No vin number posted. Sure looks fishy.


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That was not in the original ad. I see he updated it two days after the first post. Maybe he has been call out on it.

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Probably... a modern indian enfield
Illegally imported to the US ... without a proper DOT sticker

so its masquerading as an older classic bike ... from the "pre-DOT" Era

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My thought too Quinten... actually, I think I've run into this type thing before. Maybe 10 years ago, a guy came back from India with a supposedly 60's model Enfield that was in amazing shape. Allegedly he was told by the Indian seller that it had been "re-done" and modernised, now this guy wanted to sell it to my neighbor. Real cheap. No paperwork, no answers as to how he got it back to California. Neighbor asked me questions, I know nada about Enfields, so I posted a couple pictures here and asked opinions... all responses said 100% modern, as I recall.

Notice this ad says "Road Legal", but no title status, and no US plate on it.

Enfield even has a manufacturers statement saying their domestic bikes won't pass foreign emissions, and buyers should purchase locally.


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