Hi,
can't use it as-is with a
Podtronics and Pazon system substituted
hoping somebody would have a better plan of attack.
Send it back then make your own.
+1.
Bear in mind that, even if you buy from British Wiring, you only
might get a harness that doesn't need modification for "
Podtronics and Pazon". BW is supplied by Autosparks in GB, who are the source of the harnesses sold certainly by TMS mentioned by "kommando" in the first reply; Autosparks won't make any modifications from original.
However, in the past, some posters who've bought from BW have requested and received modified harnesses; if you intend to ask, I'd be happy to PM you a list of modifications for
Podtronics and Pazon; if BW refuse, "jimmymckenna's" and others' similar advice is the best.
Nevertheless, whatever you decide to do, you need to understand your Triumph workshop
Manual better, particularly the schematics:-
I have several wiring schematics and none of them correctly represent the motorcycle. Triumph seems to have cooked up the schematics as an afterthought and didn't bother to maintain them. Depending on which schematic is believed the engine cut-out switch, ammeter and second horn, come and go. The oil pressure switch is sometimes called an ignition warning light.
... none of this is correct:-
. The "Workshop" in the
Manual's title is a dealer or other commercial "shop" half-a-century ago, not a modern amateur restorer's "shop". The earliest parts of the
Manual were written for the '63 model year, the
Manual was
intended to be updated with supplements in/for later years, not edited and reissued complete every year.
.. The people for whom the
Manual written worked with the bikes day-in, day-out; "the engine cut-out switch, ammeter and second horn" did not "come and go", the oil pressure switch was never the same as the "ignition warning light", all these parts were fitted to specific
versions in specific model years between '63 and 70 (a complete new
Manual was issued for the '71 OIF 650's). With respect, it's up to you to understand what the
Manual's telling you; this Forum can help but it's better to post questions rather than ill-informed statements.
. Triumph titled most schematics "from" an engine number; between '63 and '70, none of the engine numbers in the same format descended numerically so, while the schematics might not always be in numerical order in the workshop
Manual, the chronological order isn't difficult to work out:-
.. You require a schematic titled "from" either DU85904 ('69) or a HD- or JD-pefixed number ('70, the actual first '70 number is confused :().
.. "the engine cut-out switch" shown in earlier schematics but not in a '69 or '70 schematic works entirely differently from the "Kill button" illustrated and listed in a '70 650 parts book; they aren't interchangeable, the one in the parts book cannot be connected the same as the one in earlier schematics. Btw, the later "kill button" could be and was fitted to any bike if required legally or requested by the customer.
.. "ammeter" - 'R'oad versions only, your bike doesn't have one unless it's been retro-fitted with a R 7" headlamp and 'half-egg'-shaped shell. Absent the Ammeter, original C harnesses continued the Brown/Blue wire to the rectifier, Zener diode and ignition switch. If rectifier and Zener are being replaced with a
Podtronics, neither connection is required in a new harness.
.. "second horn" - Now you should be clear about the chronological order of schematics, the second horn (and relay) only appears in '69 and/or '70 schematics?
.. "The oil pressure switch is sometimes called an ignition warning light" - Again, now you should be clearer about the chronology, look more closely at the schematics:-
... only '69 and '70 schematics show "OIL PRESSURE WARNING LIGHT (RED)" between a "white" line/wire off one side of "IGNITION SWITCH" and a "red/green" line/wire to "OIL PRESSURE SWITCH";
... only pre-'69 schematics show "IGNITION WARNING LIGHT (GREEN)" between a "white" line/wire off a coil "-" terminal and a "red" line/wire; the Ignition Warning Light didn't "go out" unless the ignition was switched off;
... at the time, the schematics would have been supplied from Meriden to dealers in separate
Manual supplements at least two years apart.
.. Giving more than cursory glances at the schematics should clarify that
Lucas supplied the same wire colour(s) for the same or similar functions consistently for years; far from a "generic harness" having only "exactly one wire whose color matches the schematic", most or all should do so.
Hth.
Regards,
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