Britbike forum

Classic British SparesKlempf British PartsBaxter CycleThe Bonneville ShopLowbrow CustomsGirling Classic MotorcycleLucas Classic MotorcycleHepolite PistonsIndustrial tec supplyJob Cycle

Upgrade your membership to Premium Membership or Gold Membership or Benefactor or Vendor Membership


New Sponsor post
Sale and Freebies May 2nd to 9th
by BritCycleSupply - 05/05/23 4:15 pm
New FAQ post
Three issues to look into
by Magnetoman - 05/24/23 1:45 pm
News & Announcements
Premium members! 🌟
by Morgan aka admin - 05/25/23 10:30 am
Gold members! ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
by Morgan aka admin - 05/16/23 2:10 pm
How to guides - Technical articles
Removing Triumph sludge tube
by reverb - 05/08/23 7:30 pm
Sixth edition is now out:
The Gold Star Buyer's Companion
ShoutChat
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
Member Spotlight
Peter R
Peter R
Netherlands
Posts: 2,268
Joined: November 2009
Top Posters(30 Days)
Lannis 91
DavidP 76
Allan G 67
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
Lannis 44
Cyborg 23
raf940 22
Newest Members
Michael Pelkey, Myrt, Tim Chandler, Magn0208, tsmeds100
12,520 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums35
Topics77,075
Posts792,675
Members12,520
Most Online230
Mar 11th, 2023
Photo posting tutorial

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#740182 06/28/18 11:03 pm
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 33
Britbike forum member
OP Offline
Britbike forum member
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 33
What is the positioning for the Bonneville120 decal on the

Toolbox cover did some bikes not even have this decal?
Did the oil tank carry the oil warning etc. decals that year?

Cheers Cris


62 Bonny
68 Shooting Star
2000 Enfield Bullet
Honda 250 CRF
British motorcycles on eBay
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,088
Likes: 268
Britbike forum member
Online Content
Britbike forum member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,088
Likes: 268
Sorry for the delay in replying to your request.

FIRST: what color is your oil tank and tool / battery box?
If the paint is BLACK, the decals will be GOLD.
If the paint color is dark metallic SILVER-GREY, the decals will be BLACK.

All Bonnevilles built 1959-1965 had the same particular "Bonneville 120" decal (decal was slightly changed 1966-67, changed again 1968, still again 1969-70.)

The BOTTOM of the "Bonneville 120" decal will be placed about one inch above the horizontal center line of the mounting screw, and the zero of "120" will be directly above the vertical center line of that mounting screw.

Thus, "Bonneville 120" is located slightly forward of the center of the lid.

OIL TANK DECALS I will describe as best I can:
Your tank should not be missing the trim valance between actual tank and the frame for this to be correct.
The "valance" is the piece of sheet metal with the slot that the top mount of the tank peeks through.

"IMPORTANT Drain Oil and Refill" decal is on the valance itself, with it's BOTTOM border line next to the seam,
and the center line of the decal should line up with the center line of the slot for the front top mount of the tank
If you look at the tank from the SIDE, you would be able to read this decal.

The "USE ONLY" decal listing recommended oils is also placed on the valance. It's placed with it's LEFT border line by the same tank / valance seam, and it's top border line sits about 1/16 of an inch below the right-side line of the "IMPORTANT" decal.
This decal will be read by looking at it from the FRONT of the bike, looking toward the rear.

For 1962 models, the proper decal will read as follows (same decal wording used 1961 - 1968)

USE ONLY
B.P. ENERGOL, SHELL,
WAKEFIELD Castrol,
MOBILOIL, ESSOLUBE,
OR REGENT HAVOLINE
REFER TO HANDBOOK FOR
RECOMMENDED GRADES

The "MINIMUM OIL LEVEL" decal on the side of the tank should be located with the bottom line of the decal about half-way down the side of the tank. A common mistake is to locate it too high.
Again, the oil tank decals will all be the same color as the "Bonneville 120" decal on the tool box lid.

I will add to this, the location of the "MADE IN ENGLAND" decal on top of the fuel tank.
This decal is in GOLD ink (why it's not "black," who knows?)

This decal is directly across the tank from the center of the filler neck, with the right end of the decal about 1/4 inch away from the center seam. Photos of original-paint tanks show the factory placed it TOO CLOSE to the seam, and
the letter "D" in "ENGLAND" was covered by the rubber strap by which the tank was mounted.
Correct this if you wish, but that's the way they originally looked.

I hope this information is of help. Best of wishes for a successful restoration.




Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 11,867
Likes: 345
Britbike forum member
Offline
Britbike forum member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 11,867
Likes: 345
Valuable info in this thread, so I have made it a sticky.

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,923
Likes: 18
Britbike forum member
Offline
Britbike forum member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,923
Likes: 18
I finally found the pic I have of a NOS oil tank from a duplex TR6
[Linked Image]Image (154)

Dang, they weren't all that fussy at the factory getting these on straight, were they? Sorry about the fuzzy small pic, but I enlarged it and the text reads the same as Mr. Swede has stated.

I might have a pic of the Minimum oil Level transfer around here somewhere....

Cheers,
Bill


Bikes
1974 Commando
1985 Honda Nighthawk 650
1957 Thunderbird/T110 "Black Tiger"
Antique Fans: Loads of Emersons (Two six wingers) plus gyros and orbiters.
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,088
Likes: 268
Britbike forum member
Online Content
Britbike forum member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,088
Likes: 268
There were TWO "Minimum 0il Level" decals used over the years:

The earlier one used on pre-units was the one with the thinner type-style, and larger gaps between the three words.
That decal measures 72mm length overall length.

I have measured the location of this decal on several original, unrestored 1954-62 pre-unit Triumphs.

To measure, begin with the seam between the tank itself, and the trim "valance," using a tailor's cloth tape measure (for flexibility) so you can wrap the tape around the curve and down the side of the tank.

The BOTTOM of the LEVEL LINE on the decal should be seven inches as measured from that tank / valance seam.

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,088
Likes: 268
Britbike forum member
Online Content
Britbike forum member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,088
Likes: 268
The photo Bill supplied matches my description. That's the way they looked.

Usually there is a gap between the two decals, but sometimes the border of one is placed on top of the other so it appears as one continuous line.

Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 33
Britbike forum member
OP Offline
Britbike forum member
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 33
Sir thank you so very much for this information much appreciated


62 Bonny
68 Shooting Star
2000 Enfield Bullet
Honda 250 CRF

Moderated by  kommando 

Link Copied to Clipboard
British Cycle SupplyMorries PlaceKlempf British PartsBSA Unit SinglesPodtronicVintage MagazineBritBike SponsorBritish Tools & FastenersBritBike Sponsor






© 1996-2023 britbike.com
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5