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How many of you own a FS #577432 12/21/14 9:08 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Been trying to get inspired to work on my 70 Firebird scrambler by doing a little google searching . Not much comes up . Not even here on Britbike. Very little talk of Scramblers at all as far as I can tell. I know Gary has a nice 68 . A few images come up in google but most have the scalloped european style tank. A lot have the wrong exhaust. Were most of these converted to Lightning specs? Lets have a count.... Photos if your is original looking please. Especially if its a 70. https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577434 12/21/14 9:18 pm Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,907 Likes: 212 Vermont Jon W. Whitley Britbike forum member Jon W. Whitley Britbike forum member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,907 Likes: 212 Vermont I have a 1970 Firebird. It is matching numbers but I bought it as a frame and engine and nothing else back in 2008 and have been piecing it back together since. It's up and rolling and I should have it fired up this spring. I am going to be using either a fiberglass Spitfire/Hornet tank or a 1966-1967 Thunderbolt/Lightning tank I have acquired since. Jon W. 1957 6T Thunderbird 650 1968 T100R Daytona 500 1971 TR6R Tiger 650 1970 BSA A65F 650 1955 Tiger 100 - Project 1971 BSA A65 650 - Project 1972 Norton Commando 750 "Combat" "Charlie don't surf"

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577453 12/21/14 10:51 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Excellent Jon. High side pipes? They seem to be missing on what turns up in Google search. https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577460 12/21/14 11:35 pm Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,907 Likes: 212 Vermont Jon W. Whitley Britbike forum member Jon W. Whitley Britbike forum member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,907 Likes: 212 Vermont No high pipes on mine and I have low pipes for it. I see what you mean about Google searches and finding good, decent 1970 Firebird pics. Jon W. 1957 6T Thunderbird 650 1968 T100R Daytona 500 1971 TR6R Tiger 650 1970 BSA A65F 650 1955 Tiger 100 - Project 1971 BSA A65 650 - Project 1972 Norton Commando 750 "Combat" "Charlie don't surf"

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577463 12/21/14 11:54 pm Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 777 Kansas City, USA J in KC R.I.P. In Remembrance J in KC R.I.P. In Remembrance Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 777 Kansas City, USA Here's a 70 FS photo. 1970 US spec Brochure.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577475 12/22/14 1:53 am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Thanks J in KC ....The Brochure is nice. So it the red bike . Yours? Looks very original. Wondering about the side cover decals . Didnt know if they had the flags or not and I see quite a few with that decal on the tank. Not on the brochure though. Still a really sharp looking bike. I think I have everything (or a lead on everything) for my bike except paint and decals. https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS J in KC R.I.P. #577477 12/22/14 2:04 am Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Likes: 1 Ohio Rickman Britbike forum member Rickman Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Likes: 1 Ohio I am trying to assemble a '69 Firebird. A large stumbling block for me, is the muffler support bracket. I've heard for quite a number of years, from several sources, that the high pipes were too often removed, and low pipes installed. I've managed to find a set of those take-off pipes, but not the support bracket.... Although, I've seen 3 of the OIF Firebird support brackets for sale...

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577478 12/22/14 2:28 am Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 725 Likes: 4 Sacramento California Rusty Goose Britbike forum member Rusty Goose Britbike forum member Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 725 Likes: 4 Sacramento California I thought I heard Lannis say he had one,maybe he'll weigh in here. 1967 A65 Lightning 1967 Moto Guzzi V7 1966? Royal Enfield Interceptor

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577481 12/22/14 2:40 am Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,382 Likes: 436 Sydney, Oz Shane in Oz Britbike forum member Shane in Oz Britbike forum member Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,382 Likes: 436 Sydney, Oz Originally Posted by wadeschields Thanks J in KC ....The Brochure is nice. So it the red bike . Yours? Looks very original. Wondering about the side cover decals . Didnt know if they had the flags or not and I see quite a few with that decal on the tank. Not on the brochure though. Still a really sharp looking bike. I think I have everything (or a lead on everything) for my bike except paint and decals. The brochure is correct, which isn't always the case. Obvious non-standard things with the red bike are: tank colour tank decals (shouldn't have any) side panel decals (should be the later style, as per the brochure pic) There appear to have been at least 3 variants of the 1970 Firebird Scrambler Candian chrome / blue tank - possibly restricted to the US East Coast arrowhead tank with chrome knee cutouts as per the 1970 Lightning. This might have been a "rest of the world" model. Just to confuse things further, the December 1969 Cycle Guide has a road test of a 1969 Firebird.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577482 12/22/14 3:31 am Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas leon bee Britbike forum member leon bee Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas Here's mine, had it since 1975. I put the birdcage back on:

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577490 12/22/14 5:55 am Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 145 New York State ATEN Britbike forum member ATEN Britbike forum member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 145 New York State Wade I have a 1970 firebird I have been restoring for several years! Other projects seem to get in the way. I will try to email you pics, post them if you wish. Bill

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577520 12/22/14 11:51 am Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,327 Likes: 160 Santa Barbara, California KC in S.B. Britbike forum member KC in S.B. Britbike forum member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,327 Likes: 160 Santa Barbara, California Add to that list, the "Cut Off" LH side cover. I had one of those awhile back and sent it off to a better home. (Ithink) They are more than simply Cut Off. The one I had had a different oddie hole, which would mean there must have been a different attach point also. Another issue to deal with. Notice on the previous photo with the shield still removed, the cover is not under the pipes. It has 3 oddies ! Last edited by KC in S.B.; 12/22/14 11:54 am. Down to ‘69 T120R now a Tr6R tribute bike ‘70 TR6C “happy in the hills” ‘67 A65LA (now single carb) ‘93 K1100RS heavy metal (should be gone, still here…)

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577534 12/22/14 1:11 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA OK so between here and the BSA group on Facebook , there are at least 7 that still exist in our world…. More to come I hope. Rickman. I got a repop bracket from one of the US dealers. British only I think. I haven't fitted it yet but I hope its correct. Are you looking for OEM only? https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577543 12/22/14 2:08 pm Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Likes: 1 Ohio Rickman Britbike forum member Rickman Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Likes: 1 Ohio Originally Posted by wadeschields Are you looking for OEM only? Afternoon Wade, Nope, I've even been entertaining the idea of trying to make one for myself... I just don't have one to copy from, thus, re-inventing the wheel, so to speak..... Someone sent me measurements once, I just don't now if their measurements are where I'd measure from, and, my efficiency at making the correct... pressings? bends and folds.. Might be smarter to take the idea from those 3 OIF support brackets I saw, and utilize flat stock, I just don't wish to go too overboard with a weighty heavy strap!

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577558 12/22/14 2:49 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Well if I can help let me know. I'll dig mine out and get a photo https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS Rickman #577565 12/22/14 3:55 pm Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas leon bee Britbike forum member leon bee Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas Originally Posted by Rickman Originally Posted by wadeschields Are you looking for OEM only? Afternoon Wade, Nope, I've even been entertaining the idea of trying to make one for myself... I just don't have one to copy from, thus, re-inventing the wheel, so to speak..... Someone sent me measurements once, I just don't now if their measurements are where I'd measure from, and, my efficiency at making the correct... pressings? bends and folds.. Might be smarter to take the idea from those 3 OIF support brackets I saw, and utilize flat stock, I just don't wish to go too overboard with a weighty heavy strap! Rick, that was me what sent you those details. Probably still got the pics from when I took the bracket off.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577566 12/22/14 3:59 pm Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas leon bee Britbike forum member leon bee Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas Like this, but looks like most of those pics didn't make it to the cloud. And that computer is long dead:

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577706 12/23/14 9:54 am Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury Wade,...Did you not receive my email photo of the sidecover with `69 decal affixed, and `70 decal loose for comparison? Klemph`s turned out to be a `69 sidecover item, not the tank top item they had listed...mis-numbered. Have found one more possible source for the tank top. We`ll see.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577732 12/23/14 12:24 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA I may have missed the email. I will check tonight. https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS pokie #577749 12/23/14 2:39 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury Just to add a bit to Shanes assessment of the "red bike": The instrument brackets & cups, headlight brackets & headlight, and apparently, the left sidecover are not correct. Save for the pipes, tank, and front fender, it could well be a modified Lightning. K.C. is correct regarding the sidecover. Stock FS one has the front 2 oddie holes only 3 1/2" apart. Decal is `68 FS only. The `70 catalogue has only one frame part # listed for all model twins, and I can`t recall where that lower oddie anchors. BritTwit will know where.

Re: How many of you own a FS pokie #577753 12/23/14 2:55 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury Leon,...Is that oddie mount bracket stock or fab?...and do you have a part# for the beast? I could find nothing is listed for it in `69 or `70 catalogue.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577758 12/23/14 3:23 pm Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas leon bee Britbike forum member leon bee Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas It's factory. I took everything off and measured it all a couple years ago. That photo was the only one I found at my photobucket account. I may have other pics in my laptop.

Re: How many of you own a FS Shane in Oz #577759 12/23/14 3:27 pm Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,801 Likes: 115 Orygone Boomer Britbike forum member Boomer Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,801 Likes: 115 Orygone The brochure is correct, which isn't always the case. Obvious non-standard things with the red bike are: tank colour tank decals (shouldn't have any) side panel decals (should be the later style, as per the brochure pic) There appear to have been at least 3 variants of the 1970 Firebird Scrambler Candian chrome / blue tank - possibly restricted to the US East Coast [/quote] I thought the Red/chrome was the FS tank and the Blue/chrome was the B25 tank. Boomer

Re: How many of you own a FS Boomer #577776 12/23/14 5:51 pm Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,382 Likes: 436 Sydney, Oz Shane in Oz Britbike forum member Shane in Oz Britbike forum member Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,382 Likes: 436 Sydney, Oz Originally Posted by Boomer I thought the Red/chrome was the FS tank and the Blue/chrome was the B25 tank. Bill, I've seen a couple of pictures of Firebirds with the red/chrome, but only the blue/chrome was in the 1970 advertising. My 1970 looks like the brochure. It was bought from Baxters and restored by one of our club members who decided it wasn't very practical for commuting. He included a red/chrome arrowhead tank and sidecovers in the deal. The "Two Wheels" road test was in B&W, so the red/chrome for the "rest of the world" bikes is an assumption based on the greyscale, Lightning arrowhead tanks and my spare tank. I could well be wrong.

Re: How many of you own a FS Shane in Oz #577798 12/23/14 8:13 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury Boomer,...The `70 Starfire tank was unchromed and entirely blue paint with white stripe. Albeit the same Starfire tank, `70 FS configuration was chromed with either blue or red upper panel. I`ve never seen a `70 FS with the `69 style "under-inflated football" tank. Leon,..is your machine `70 or `69? And, I found the oddie bracket that mounts to the battery cradle - - part # 83-1375 - -FS only. Thanks for the photo clue.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577807 12/23/14 9:45 pm Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,801 Likes: 115 Orygone Boomer Britbike forum member Boomer Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,801 Likes: 115 Orygone Like this..... Bill B... Boomer

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577813 12/23/14 10:57 pm Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,327 Likes: 160 Santa Barbara, California KC in S.B. Britbike forum member KC in S.B. Britbike forum member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,327 Likes: 160 Santa Barbara, California I have an NOS '70 FB blue tank in a box somewhere. I always thought it odd to have a BSA tank with no Badges. ........We don't neeeed no Steenkin Batges...... Also, the center mounted cap and welded lower edge is almost like BSA found a bunch of old '66 tanks stock or something, and made do with it for a new model. 1 Year only. --------------------------------------- AAHHGGRrrrrrrr! Doncha just HATE this auto-correction when you type F B ?? Last edited by KC in S.B.; 12/23/14 10:59 pm. Down to ‘69 T120R now a Tr6R tribute bike ‘70 TR6C “happy in the hills” ‘67 A65LA (now single carb) ‘93 K1100RS heavy metal (should be gone, still here…)

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #577827 12/24/14 12:56 am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Im not seeing that email Pokie. This was emailed to me And this was on Facebook BSA group response to my photo request https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS Boomer #577887 12/24/14 10:59 am Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury Boomer,...Sorry...I didn`t mean to be redundant. Just trying to put info out there that some folks might not already know. I suppose it`s more common knowledge now...the price of `70 Starfire tanks has risen lately. Wade,...I`ll try again. Interesting photos you`ve posted. The list must be growing.

Re: How many of you own a FS KC in S.B. #577937 12/24/14 5:41 pm Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,241 Likes: 9 SLO County, CA D.Bachtel Life member D.Bachtel Life member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,241 Likes: 9 SLO County, CA Originally Posted by KC in S.B. I have an NOS '70 FB blue tank in a box somewhere. Well that got my attention, put me on the right of first refusal list (you know - mee, mee, mee) when you determine if it's in excess of your needs KC. When you do find the box with the tank in it give me a shout. I'd run on down to Santa Barbara just to look at it! I always thought that would be great alternate tank for my 1970 Lightning. Not so much ethusiasm for the wide, heavy waisted one sided exhaust system... Don in Nipomo .... shopping done, baking now, Christmas Eve ride later.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #578293 12/27/14 10:53 pm Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 79 Michigan dpkreuze Britbike forum member dpkreuze Britbike forum member Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 79 Michigan Hello. Here are some pics of a Firebird Scrambler with engine and frame #PC(November,1969)14584 A65F. The BSAOC site claims the A65F was a 1970 model. http://www.bsaownersclub.co.uk/Engine_Frame_Listing.html#1960. It has 1400 miles on the odometer. It has been converted to a negative ground charging system with a Tympanium rectifier/regulator.(why? I dunno.) It's been cannibalized for the chain guard and some rear axle and brake drum parts. Sorry I left the side covers off, I do have them. Otherwise it is as original as I found it in a relative's barn in Michigan. I haven't purchased this one yet but I'm working on it this winter. [img:left][/img] [img:left][/img] Thanks, Don Last edited by dpkreuze; 12/28/14 3:05 pm. 1969 Firebird Scrambler 1936 W6 1966 Bantam Deluxe 1973 Honda CB 125 1969Honda Cub 1995 Custom framed S&S 96 cu in Vtwin

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #578310 12/28/14 4:33 am Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 598 Likes: 12 Norway Ola Britbike forum member Ola Britbike forum member Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 598 Likes: 12 Norway Some F:B stuff here: http://ingfatrygg.se/ regards Last edited by Ola; 12/28/14 4:33 am. There are no bosses in a technical discussion (Doug Hele, 1919 - 2001)

Re: How many of you own a FS dpkreuze #578421 12/28/14 4:45 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury DP,....Nice item. Hope you harpoon it. ID # suggests (along with the tank) that it`s a late `69 model. Share your progress on the project when you score.

Re: How many of you own a FS dpkreuze #578452 12/28/14 6:34 pm Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,382 Likes: 436 Sydney, Oz Shane in Oz Britbike forum member Shane in Oz Britbike forum member Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,382 Likes: 436 Sydney, Oz Originally Posted by dpkreuze Hello. Here are some pics of a Firebird Scrambler with engine and frame #PC(November,1969)14584 A65F. The BSAOC site claims the A65F was a 1970 model. http://www.bsaownersclub.co.uk/Engine_Frame_Listing.html#1960. BSA model years are a bit of a trap. The model year started around August of the previous calendar year, give or take a bit. PC would be built in November 1968. for the 1969 model year. A quick way to tell a 1970+ A65 is that they use the ball-ramp clutch lift mechanism with the clutch cable entering the timing cover from vertically above. Lots of things can get changed in 40+ years, so it's not guaranteed to be the case, of course. The bike looks in nice shape, so it's definitely worth chasing and putting back on the road.

Re: How many of you own a FS Shane in Oz #578472 12/28/14 8:57 pm Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,854 Likes: 130 Atlanta, GA USA Semper Gumby Britbike forum member Semper Gumby Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,854 Likes: 130 Atlanta, GA USA I've got a 69 matching number original paint (but faded). I will prolly repaint the tank and covers this winter. Have a basic plan and then let life fill in the blanks.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #578497 12/29/14 12:50 am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Thanks everyone. Keep'em coming. Sure are lot wit those arrow head tanks as opposed to the badge-less chrome ones? https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS Semper Gumby #578507 12/29/14 6:07 am Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 547 Likes: 59 Germany North expresidente Britbike forum member expresidente Britbike forum member Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 547 Likes: 59 Germany North Semper Gumbi-Bill, dont wanna highjack this thread, but: my eyeshave just seen a beautiful Volvo Amazon of my favourite colour in the background! Have spend many years with that models. They are absolutely brilliant cars, especially the station wagons. Is it your car? greets Dieter

Re: How many of you own a FS expresidente #578579 12/29/14 2:43 pm Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,854 Likes: 130 Atlanta, GA USA Semper Gumby Britbike forum member Semper Gumby Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,854 Likes: 130 Atlanta, GA USA Originally Posted by expresidente Semper Gumbi-Bill, dont wanna highjack this thread, but: my eyeshave just seen a beautiful Volvo Amazon of my favourite colour in the background! Have spend many years with that models. They are absolutely brilliant cars, especially the station wagons. Is it your car? greets Dieter Brother Dieter, Is a 1966 120 1.8 liter. Runs great but falling apart. It lived a lot of it life in a state that used salt for winter roads. You can have it for $500 and if you do show up the Samuel Smiths Chocolate Stout is free for the afternoon! :g Last edited by Semper Gumby; 12/29/14 2:44 pm. Have a basic plan and then let life fill in the blanks.

Re: How many of you own a FS Semper Gumby #578584 12/29/14 3:16 pm Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 547 Likes: 59 Germany North expresidente Britbike forum member expresidente Britbike forum member Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 547 Likes: 59 Germany North Hey Bill Nice offer, and, if it would be around the corner i would go for it. But i think i dont have the time to rebuild a rusty car. Maybe you can drive it over for the danish international...? just kidding.. thanks anyway. Wade looks like you are obsessed by Beezas, mate. Good luck with the Firebird, its a nice bike; i like them.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579288 01/03/15 7:11 pm Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Likes: 1 Ontario , Canada RGSROB Britbike forum member RGSROB Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Likes: 1 Ontario , Canada I have a 69 Firebird and wonder if the guys with together ones can tell me if the chainguard should be black or chrome. Also does anyone have a birdcage condition relatively unimportant as i do not have one.By the way my left sidecover has the 3 Fasteners and is the short type. Last edited by RGSROB; 01/03/15 7:15 pm.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579312 01/03/15 9:31 pm Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas leon bee Britbike forum member leon bee Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas Chainguards chrome. In watching ebay almost daily for years, only ever saw a couple of the birdcages. If I wanted one I'd probably call everybody: Baxter's, Beno Rodi, Walridge, etc., and all the sponsors of this board.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579315 01/03/15 9:39 pm Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 725 Likes: 4 Sacramento California Rusty Goose Britbike forum member Rusty Goose Britbike forum member Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 725 Likes: 4 Sacramento California Add Wes Scott Cycles to the list. He has quite a bit of stuff on hand. 1967 A65 Lightning 1967 Moto Guzzi V7 1966? Royal Enfield Interceptor

Re: How many of you own a FS Rusty Goose #579327 01/03/15 11:35 pm Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Likes: 1 Ohio Rickman Britbike forum member Rickman Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Likes: 1 Ohio Rusty, Would you ask Wes if they have a '69 F B muffler support bracket, and how much one would cost? New or preferably used, I won't care, I MUST be cautious about pricing... I've seen a number of 'birdcages' at VMD, back when I was going... Some at the OVBSAOC meets... I've had a good one for a number of years, so I haven't been looking for one, sorry...

Re: How many of you own a FS RGSROB #579442 01/04/15 8:40 pm Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18 Michigan USA OldBalz Britbike forum member OldBalz Britbike forum member Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18 Michigan USA Originally Posted by RGSROB I have a 69 Firebird and wonder if the guys with together ones can tell me if the chainguard should be black or chrome. Also does anyone have a birdcage condition relatively unimportant as i do not have one.By the way my left sidecover has the 3 fasteners and is the short type. My 69 Firebird U.S. version is original and has a chrome chainguard and the shortie L.H. 3 fastener sidecover and is candy red.

Re: How many of you own a FS expresidente #579486 01/05/15 2:08 am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Originally Posted by expresidente Wade looks like you are obsessed by Beezas, mate. Good luck with the Firebird, its a nice bike; i like them. What makes you think that Dieter https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579514 01/05/15 10:10 am Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Likes: 1 Ontario , Canada RGSROB Britbike forum member RGSROB Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Likes: 1 Ontario , Canada Hi Guys . thanks for the answers, here is another. My twin mufflers on the left project beyond the rear fender.They are BSA items but overall length of them is 26" which I suspect is not correct. Can somebody run a tape over theirs? Thanks Rob

Re: How many of you own a FS RGSROB #579530 01/05/15 12:41 pm Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas leon bee Britbike forum member leon bee Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas Originally Posted by RGSROB Hi Guys . thanks for the answers, here is another. My twin mufflers on the left project beyond the rear fender.They are BSA items but overall length of them is 26" which I suspect is not correct. Can somebody run a tape over theirs? Thanks Rob The F B ones are shorter than on the other bikes. I'll try to get to mine today.

Re: How many of you own a FS RGSROB #579596 01/05/15 8:37 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury RGSBob,....23" from inlet to outlet, stock unit.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579622 01/06/15 12:19 am Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 175 Likes: 10 Auckland, New Zealand SidSnot Life member SidSnot Life member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 175 Likes: 10 Auckland, New Zealand Here is my 69 A65F. And a Fleetstar tank. This would appear to be the same as a '70 F B but with holes for a parcel rack. I guess these could be filled and painted over. Cheers Sid.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579628 01/06/15 12:49 am Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 139 Pennsylvania USA Mike Stillwell Britbike forum member Mike Stillwell Britbike forum member Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 139 Pennsylvania USA I have a 69 firebird, we'll most, ok some of one. It's been chopperized. I got it as a basket case. Not sure what I want to do with it but those pics sure make me want to return it to stock condition. Nice bikes.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579648 01/06/15 8:05 am Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Likes: 1 Ontario , Canada RGSROB Britbike forum member RGSROB Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Likes: 1 Ontario , Canada Thanks pokie, that clears up that one. present mufflers have a cut out for shock clearance so might be from a 68 FS or unit single high pipe. The hunt continues.

Re: How many of you own a FS RGSROB #579688 01/06/15 3:18 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury RGSRob,...What`s the icon for dummkopf? I mistakenly gave you the measurement for `68 FS muffs (23"), but recovered my sanity and measured my `69-`70 FS ones, and they`re 22". Neither set has cut-outs, and I don`t recall that `71 had them either. I believe at one time I sold a set for TR6 Triumph Trophy that had the reliefs, but I have no Triumph reference now to verify......????

Re: How many of you own a FS SidSnot #579708 01/06/15 5:46 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area I recently pawned this off on Pokie. I always thought it was a custom paint job. Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579710 01/06/15 6:23 pm Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Likes: 1 Ontario , Canada RGSROB Britbike forum member RGSROB Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 655 Likes: 1 Ontario , Canada Thanks for checking Pokie, I found that late A10 measure 22" so may go that way as I can get get a set. The penny dropped on the mufflers with the cut out. pretty sure they turn out to be high level unit single items(250?) I just happen to have two of them.

Re: How many of you own a FS RGSROB #579746 01/06/15 10:57 pm Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Likes: 1 Ohio Rickman Britbike forum member Rickman Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Likes: 1 Ohio Hmmm, Very interesting. Made me get up and go measure the mufflers a fellow OV member gave me for my F B project; they are the 23" ones... And it's 15 degrees out there! BRRR! Thanks for these tidbits! Do '69 F B's utilise folding front footpegs??? P.S. I've got what I think are a pair of triumph mufflers, they are only 18-7/8" long, and use a curved strap bolted onto them to hang from the frame... The straps Sort of look like those Egyptian sickle knives??? Edge-wise? I think??? If I'm gonna use them somewhere, I'm gonna have to find a set of straps, or try to make a pair... NOT trying to hyjack this thread. These misc. mufflers just popped into my head, along with thinking about the F B stuff... NO idea just which model these misc. mufflers actually originally fit... Last edited by Rickman; 01/06/15 11:30 pm.

Re: How many of you own a FS Rickman #579757 01/07/15 2:23 am Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury Rickman,...glad to help. And yes, folding footpegs are correct. On the tank...Fleetstars are pretty thin on the ground in Yankee-land, so thanks to SidSnot for the enlightening photo (Very nice FS, too). I also thought the tank from BritTwit was FS, with paint done by an acid head in Escondido. Cautionary tale here: BritTwit is ruthless and brutal in negotiating...I have wounds still healing from the tank deal. Peligro! Good thing he has a great sense of humor.

Re: How many of you own a FS pokie #579776 01/07/15 10:20 am Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18 Michigan USA OldBalz Britbike forum member OldBalz Britbike forum member Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18 Michigan USA Originally Posted by pokie RGSRob,...What`s the icon for dummkopf? I mistakenly gave you the measurement for `68 FS muffs (23"), but recovered my sanity and measured my `69-`70 FS ones, and they`re 22". Neither set has cut-outs, and I don`t recall that `71 had them either. I believe at one time I sold a set for TR6 Triumph Trophy that had the reliefs, but I have no Triumph reference now to verify......???? The mufflers on my 1969 Firebird are 23" long and are original equipment.

Re: How many of you own a FS OldBalz #579833 01/07/15 8:36 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury Balz,...Too bad BSA did not ID stamp their mufflers the way they stamped their pipes. My 3 different sized high-pipe muffs {22", 22 5/8", and 23") are stock BSA items, and 1 Toga (22 3/8"). They are all the same dimensions but for the outlet tube lengths, which appear unmolested with a hacksaw. The Toga has a slightly shorter chamber and less finishing on the welds. Nevertheless, any of the 3 are at least 3 inches shorter than the 26" one in question, which solves the overhang prob. And of course we know BSA never had production variations, running design changes, or supplier issues with quality compliance. In the end, whatever works and looks right...use it.

Re: How many of you own a FS BritTwit #579908 01/08/15 12:57 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Originally Posted by BritTwit I recently pawned this off on Pokie. I always thought it was a custom paint job. Funny that it is so similar to SidSnots tank Originally Posted by SidSnot And a Fleetstar tank. This would appear to be the same as a '70 F B but with holes for a parcel rack. I guess these could be filled and painted over. Cheers Sid. I never heard of a Fleetstar. What did they look like? Does BritTwin's have the parcel rack holes as well? Last edited by wadeschields; 01/08/15 1:00 pm. https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579910 01/08/15 1:12 pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 11,817 Likes: 318 Scotland kommando Britbike forum member kommando Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 11,817 Likes: 318 Scotland Quote I never heard of a Fleetstar A Fleetstar is a variation of the B25 for Fleets in the UK, eg The Post Office, Police etc. Lower compression, valanced front mudguard.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #579911 01/08/15 1:31 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Ahhhh https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS kommando #579962 01/08/15 6:43 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury Kommando,..thanks for that. Every photo I had seen of a Fleetstar before had a Royal Mail rider astride, blocking any view of the tank paint scheme.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #580007 01/08/15 11:28 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area Pokie When you stripped the tank, were there signs of parcel rack holes? If the Fleet Star was a home market bike, wonder how it wound up in Southern California? Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS BritTwit #580015 01/09/15 12:56 am Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury B.T. Woodrow,...No rack holes or vestiges thereof. Purely speculation but, perhaps traffic peelers required them for citation pads, and Royal mail had no need...just used panniers. Was taken to SoCal by terrorists?

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #587083 02/23/15 6:59 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area New arrivals 1970 FireBird Scrambler Stored in a garage for the last 25 years or so. Appears to be all original matching numbers (HD00XXX A65F)except for the older repaint. Still had the original blue on the backside of the side covers. Looks like it has the original Dunlop's. I'll post more images as soon as I give it a bath. 1970 A65L The FB's stable mate. I had to get both as a package deal. I'll probably sell off the Lightning. I did a quick cleanup and it didn't look too bad. The odd color of the cases and primary cover appear to be some kind of varnish or clear coat that went bad. It appears to be fairly unmolested (original bolts,wiring and air cleaners). No silencers and non original horn. Matching numbers (AD04XXX A65L). Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #587101 02/23/15 8:08 pm Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas leon bee Britbike forum member leon bee Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,440 Likes: 54 arkansas So BritTwit are you looking for one of those chicken basket deals now, or do you already have one?

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #587118 02/23/15 11:32 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area Leon My friend Pokie came through with one. It's now soaking in some Berryman carb cleaner in an attempt to remove the Bar-B-Que sauce. Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS BritTwit #587166 02/24/15 12:18 pm Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury pokie Britbike forum member pokie Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 176 Likes: 1 Missoury He knew ah luvs dos ribs.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #587377 02/25/15 9:29 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Nice Find on the Firebird and Lightning. Unfortunately mine is not further along then it was before. Winter weather , Kithchen project and work , or lack there of, have gotten in the way once again. https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #587460 02/26/15 12:17 pm Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,272 Likes: 34 Trenton, New Jersey royaloilfield Britbike forum member royaloilfield Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,272 Likes: 34 Trenton, New Jersey Wade, this is my friend Kieth's FS. Maybe you will get to see it when you come over for the Norton Rally??? Brian

Re: How many of you own a FS royaloilfield #587542 02/26/15 8:04 pm Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18 Michigan USA OldBalz Britbike forum member OldBalz Britbike forum member Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18 Michigan USA Originally Posted by royaloilfield Wade, this is my friend Kieth's FS. Maybe you will get to see it when you come over for the Norton Rally??? Do you happen to have any more photos of this gorgeous Firebird that you can share with us?

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #591675 03/24/15 6:11 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area Finally got the BBQ stains off the exhaust grill that I got from Pokie. Cleaned up nicely. Beautiful chrome under all that dust. Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #591677 03/24/15 6:26 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area Just got this on eBay. Canadian market. Did these even exist? Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS OldBalz #591755 03/25/15 8:35 am Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,272 Likes: 34 Trenton, New Jersey royaloilfield Britbike forum member royaloilfield Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,272 Likes: 34 Trenton, New Jersey "Do you happen to have any more photos of this gorgeous Firebird that you can share with us?"[/quote] this is the only other pic I have. Brian

Re: How many of you own a FS royaloilfield #591845 03/25/15 5:11 pm Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18 Michigan USA OldBalz Britbike forum member OldBalz Britbike forum member Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18 Michigan USA Originally Posted by royaloilfield "Do you happen to have any more photos of this gorgeous Firebird that you can share with us?" this is the only other pic I have. [/quote] Thanks, I hope to have my 69'FS completed by early summer. I just received my newly repainted tins back from the painter early this month and am waiting for Spring to arrive so that I can finish it.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #592140 03/27/15 1:46 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Wow That is a nice one! https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS BritTwit #592148 03/27/15 2:27 pm Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,952 Likes: 511 Central Virginia Lannis Well'ard Rocker Lannis Well'ard Rocker Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,952 Likes: 511 Central Virginia Just got this on eBay. Canadian market. Did these even exist? [/quote] First I've ever heard or seen of a '70 Firebird with low pipes from the factory. Anything can happen though. By 1970, every BSA was potentially a "parts bin special", not to mention the mods the dealers made when they were delivered to the Home Market, Eastern US, Western US, Canada, or the Commonwealth, or when a customer made a specific request. I talked to the guy who bought my Firebird new from the dealer in 1969. He hated the near-side pipes with the bird-cage shield, so before the dealer even delivered it to him, the original pipes had been trashed and a pair of '68 FBS pipes installed ... Lannis The worst prison is the one that you don't know that you're in.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #592189 03/27/15 6:28 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area In looking closely at the Canadian brochure, it looks like they took a stock Lightning Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #592192 03/27/15 6:37 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area Continued: (hit the wrong key) In looking closely at the Canadian brochure, it looks like they took a stock Lightning and added the small headlamp and the FBird tank. White fork covers? Now really, whose idea was that. This thing was probably shunned faster than an Amish farmer with a skinhead haircut and a Nirvana tattoo. Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS BritTwit #592196 03/27/15 6:57 pm Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,952 Likes: 511 Central Virginia Lannis Well'ard Rocker Lannis Well'ard Rocker Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,952 Likes: 511 Central Virginia Originally Posted by BritTwit Continued: (hit the wrong key) In looking closely at the Canadian brochure, it looks like they took a stock Lightning and added the small headlamp and the FBird tank. White fork covers? Now really, whose idea was that. This thing was probably shunned faster than an Amish farmer with a skinhead haircut and a Nirvana tattoo. And they forgot to add the proper Firebird tapered front fender. Yep, I think you're right ... cut'n'paste job ... Lannis The worst prison is the one that you don't know that you're in.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #592199 03/27/15 7:14 pm Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,278 Likes: 166 The Northwoods... Michigan Steve Erickson Britbike forum member Steve Erickson Britbike forum member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,278 Likes: 166 The Northwoods... Michigan It is sort of the same color scheme that was used on the 70 US market B25. Looks like the same gas tank too, though different color. Probably looked dynamite under a black light...

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #592485 03/29/15 2:24 pm Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,907 Likes: 212 Vermont Jon W. Whitley Britbike forum member Jon W. Whitley Britbike forum member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,907 Likes: 212 Vermont I took this pic last Sunday inside the British Beer Company restaurant in Framingham, Massachusetts. It is a 1970 Y bike. I should have taken a close up of the VIN but it did very clearly identify it as a Firebird Scrambler. May not be correct and all but was a very nice, clean and presentable machine ! Jon W. 1957 6T Thunderbird 650 1968 T100R Daytona 500 1971 TR6R Tiger 650 1970 BSA A65F 650 1955 Tiger 100 - Project 1971 BSA A65 650 - Project 1972 Norton Commando 750 "Combat" "Charlie don't surf"

Re: How many of you own a FS Jon W. Whitley #592515 03/29/15 5:42 pm Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,952 Likes: 511 Central Virginia Lannis Well'ard Rocker Lannis Well'ard Rocker Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,952 Likes: 511 Central Virginia Originally Posted by Jon W. Whitley I took this pic last Sunday inside the British Beer Company restaurant in Framingham, Massachusetts. It is a 1970 Y bike. I should have taken a close up of the VIN but it did very clearly identify it as a Firebird Scrambler. May not be correct and all but was a very nice, clean and presentable machine ! Looks pretty in that light; if 'twas mine, I'd either put the high pipes back on or find a Lightning side-cover, and the tank looks like it's missing a rubber mount, too far down in front. You have to be a guy who knows where the skeletons in your OWN Firebird's closet are hidden to be able to tell these things .... !! Lannis The worst prison is the one that you don't know that you're in.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #592606 03/30/15 10:08 am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA I need a British Beer Company ..... https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #592723 03/30/15 9:58 pm Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,272 Likes: 34 Trenton, New Jersey royaloilfield Britbike forum member royaloilfield Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,272 Likes: 34 Trenton, New Jersey Originally Posted by wadeschields I need a British Beer Company ..... I just need a beer! Brian

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #596259 04/22/15 11:31 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Nice looking Firebird Scrambler from Facebook. Although I'd go for the original tank https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS Lannis #596380 04/23/15 9:19 pm Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,158 Likes: 110 West Coast US Gary E Britbike forum member Gary E Britbike forum member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,158 Likes: 110 West Coast US Originally Posted by Lannis Looks pretty in that light; if 'twas mine, I'd either put the high pipes back on or find a Lightning side-cover, and the tank looks like it's missing a rubber mount, too far down in front. You have to be a guy who knows where the skeletons in your OWN Firebird's closet are hidden to be able to tell these things .... !! Lannis I'm with Lannis on that display bike. 1967 BSA Wasp 1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model) 1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model) 1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler 1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV 1965 BSA Cyclone Competition Build 1965 BSA Spitfire Hornet Build

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #596381 04/23/15 9:21 pm Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,158 Likes: 110 West Coast US Gary E Britbike forum member Gary E Britbike forum member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,158 Likes: 110 West Coast US Originally Posted by wadeschields Nice looking Firebird Scrambler from Facebook. Although I'd go for the original tank Actually doesn't look to bad with those weed burner mufflers. But I'd ditch the pipe wrap before it ruins the pipe metal. 1967 BSA Wasp 1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model) 1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model) 1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler 1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV 1965 BSA Cyclone Competition Build 1965 BSA Spitfire Hornet Build

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #598234 05/06/15 3:45 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Does anyone know if the 70 FS blue is a candy color or is it just normal paint? If candy , does it have a silver base? https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #685100 02/16/17 4:02 pm Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 368 Likes: 11 Celle/Germany Phil in Germany Britbike forum member Phil in Germany Britbike forum member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 368 Likes: 11 Celle/Germany Hi mates, I recently joined the brotherhood of FS owners. I had already shown the bike off at the R&T. The poor old BSA was in a terrible state technically although looking really really nice. Anyway... I shall get the engine back in within the next two or three weeks. I have now bought a set of Premier carbs as the ones on the bike were a mismatched pair of 930 and 932. The manual states main jet sizes as 220 which seems quite rich on first glance. Has anyone of you first hand experience with a stock 71 FS? This could save me from fiddling with the mains, as due to the exhaust pipes accessibility to the float bowls is, errr...., limited.... Thanks in advance and best regards Ph. Best regards Phil Celle/Germany '62 A 65 Star (disassembled) '69 A 65 Lightning '71 A 65 Firebird

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #685236 02/17/17 6:30 pm Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,133 Likes: 162 Bega NSW Australia Mark Parker Britbike forum member Mark Parker Britbike forum member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,133 Likes: 162 Bega NSW Australia 70 Firebird blue seems to be candy with a silver base. I bought two about 17years ago. The underside of a tank was still blue, the top faded but it looked to have a silver base. I rebuilt one and sold it. mark

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #688063 03/14/17 4:38 am Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 53 Sydney Australia victortrry Britbike forum member victortrry Britbike forum member Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 53 Sydney Australia I have had 2 Firebirds in the last 20 years, the first a 69 model and the current one is a matching numbers 1970 model supposedly came to Australia from New Zealand in 1978.I have fitted a petrol tank off a starfire because it is much bigger than the original one. the 1970 petrol tank is black and chrome knee pads. and has high pipes on the left. Victor 1970 Firebird 1954 A10 1956 B31 1968 Enfield 350 1981 XS650 2012 CFmoto 650NK

Re: How many of you own a FS Phil in Germany #688102 03/14/17 2:35 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Originally Posted by Phil in Germany Hi mates, I recently joined the brotherhood of FS owners. I had already shown the bike off at the R&T. Ph. Thats a nice looking bike. Good luck with it. Mine is still on hold but hopefully this summer it will be on the road... The painter went and bought metal flaked blue paint but I really want to push him to do the candy with silver base https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #688258 03/15/17 6:40 pm Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Bordeaux, France Xavier Devars Britbike forum member Xavier Devars Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Bordeaux, France Dear Firebird owning gentlemen, please count me in, with a 1970 GD Firebird and its so peculiar badgless chromed petrol tank. Regards Xavier

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #688410 03/17/17 12:06 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA I like the badgeless tank. It makes it different from the rest therefore keeping it interesting for me. I can see why everyone changes the stock mufflers though.... But I think I'll keep mine stock anyway.... https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #690479 04/04/17 7:12 pm Joined: Feb 2017 Posts: 5 Snohomish WA mrvideo Britbike forum member mrvideo Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2017 Posts: 5 Snohomish WA I have a 1970 BSA F/S (in a box) so I have been having trouble even getting pictures of basic issues: Are there any websites that would show some detailed pictures of a 1970 BSA Firebird? (I have looked but to no avail) I am having problems with mounting the Zenier diode (how really does it attach to bike) and where does the rectifier get located (I have found a spot under seat by the battery, which looks good) and are the capacitors mounted below seat on a little bar? It looked like a good spot so that is where I put it. Anyway without some sort of picture (I bought bike in a box) it is even tough to get correct routing of wire harness. And, were the heck does the right side cover bottom oddie attach too,Thanks in advance

Re: How many of you own a FS mrvideo #690502 04/05/17 12:01 am Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 53 Sydney Australia victortrry Britbike forum member victortrry Britbike forum member Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 53 Sydney Australia Its a good idea to get yourself a BSA manual for a start and a spare parts manual, this will show you where things go. The zener goes just above the ignition lock.

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #749757 09/19/18 3:41 pm Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1 Bavaria, Germany to.bias Novice poster to.bias Novice poster Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1 Bavaria, Germany Hello, my name is Tobias and I am from the south of Germany, Bavaria. Since last November I am restoring a BSA Firebird Scrambler from 1970. This motorcycle is very rare in BMW country. Sure, I'll ask one or two questions to the Firebird owners abroad from (US)A to (New)Zealand. In this condition I bought it....... ....and this is more or less the current condition. The colour changed from fire truck red to flamboyant red, another handlebar, levers, headlight, all electrics new, dozens of seals, screws, brackets - the little things that nobody sees but me cheers Tobias Last edited by to.bias; 09/19/18 3:44 pm. 1970 BSA A65 Firebird Scrambler 1956 BSA DB34 Goldstar Clubman

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #750202 09/23/18 7:04 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area Finally finished the freshen up. [img]http://[/img] [img]http://[/img] Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #750203 09/23/18 7:07 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area Forgot the before shot. [img]http://[/img] Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity

Re: How many of you own a FS BritTwit #751173 10/02/18 1:17 am Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,854 Likes: 130 Atlanta, GA USA Semper Gumby Britbike forum member Semper Gumby Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,854 Likes: 130 Atlanta, GA USA Two a 1969 stocker. And a 1971 motocrosser race bike with dual high straight pipes. At 7000 rpms the boik sings. Have a basic plan and then let life fill in the blanks.

Re: How many of you own a FS BritTwit #751202 10/02/18 12:19 pm Joined: May 2013 Posts: 9,077 Likes: 323 West Yorkshire Allan G Britbike forum member Allan G Britbike forum member Joined: May 2013 Posts: 9,077 Likes: 323 West Yorkshire Originally Posted by BritTwit Finally finished the freshen up. [img]http://[/img] [img]http://[/img] Very Nice!!! out of interest what is the colour? it looks virtually identical to the the poor but original paint on my mates FB in the same style as yours and the colour is what we were pondering..... We have seen "flamboyant aircraft blue" however that colour on the blue lightnings looks nothing like it. the only way i could think that was possible was the candy blue over a black base instead of silver.... Life is stressful enough without getting upset over the little things... Now lets all have a beer! 68’ A65 Lightning “clubman” 71’ A65 823 Thunderbolt (now rebuilt) 67’ D10 sportsman (undergoing restoration) 68’ D14 trials (undergoing transformation)

Re: How many of you own a FS Semper Gumby #751303 10/03/18 12:08 am Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,140 Likes: 158 Owego, NY, USA Mark Z Britbike forum member Mark Z Britbike forum member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,140 Likes: 158 Owego, NY, USA Originally Posted by Semper Gumby Two a 1969 stocker. And a 1971 motocrosser race bike with dual high straight pipes. At 7000 rpms the boik sings. Gotta ask: Has anyone ever tried to race this beast on a motocross track? Mark Z '65(lower)/'66(upper, wheels, front end, controls)/'67(seat, exhaust, fuel tank, headlamp)/'70(frame) A65 Bitsa. 2007 Triumph Bonneville Black

Re: How many of you own a FS Allan G #751305 10/03/18 12:36 am Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,534 Likes: 301 Sydney Australia BSA_WM20 Britbike forum member BSA_WM20 Britbike forum member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,534 Likes: 301 Sydney Australia Originally Posted by Allan Gill Originally Posted by BritTwit Finally finished the freshen up. [img]http://[/img] [img]http://[/img] Very Nice!!! out of interest what is the colour? it looks virtually identical to the the poor but original paint on my mates FB in the same style as yours and the colour is what we were pondering..... We have seen "flamboyant aircraft blue" however that colour on the blue lightnings looks nothing like it. the only way i could think that was possible was the candy blue over a black base instead of silver.... The colour as seen on a computer monitor is meaningless . Firstly unless it is a high end graphic arts or printers soft proofing screen ( read $ 1000's ) then it will not be an accurate depiction of the image and the image itself will not be an accurate depiction of the real colour of the bike which itself will vary according to the light it is being viewed in . And all this is before you take into account the inacuracy ( variations really ) of the eye of the viewer. Bike Beesa Trevor

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #751310 10/03/18 1:27 am Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,952 Likes: 511 Central Virginia Lannis Well'ard Rocker Lannis Well'ard Rocker Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,952 Likes: 511 Central Virginia Just realized I'd never posted a photo of my own FS, four years on .... With a bunch of Guzzis, on the way to Williamsburg VA from my house. About a 400 mile day by the time we got back! With a 100 mile range, I could only stop to take a picture in front of a gas pump .... Lannis The worst prison is the one that you don't know that you're in.

Re: How many of you own a FS Mark Z #751312 10/03/18 1:47 am Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,272 Likes: 34 Trenton, New Jersey royaloilfield Britbike forum member royaloilfield Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,272 Likes: 34 Trenton, New Jersey You can practice riding your BSA on the scrambles track here in two weeks!! Brian

Re: How many of you own a FS BSA_WM20 #751619 10/05/18 2:36 pm Joined: May 2013 Posts: 9,077 Likes: 323 West Yorkshire Allan G Britbike forum member Allan G Britbike forum member Joined: May 2013 Posts: 9,077 Likes: 323 West Yorkshire Originally Posted by BSA_WM20 Originally Posted by Allan Gill Originally Posted by BritTwit Finally finished the freshen up. [img]http://[/img] [img]http://[/img] Very Nice!!! out of interest what is the colour? it looks virtually identical to the the poor but original paint on my mates FB in the same style as yours and the colour is what we were pondering..... We have seen "flamboyant aircraft blue" however that colour on the blue lightnings looks nothing like it. the only way i could think that was possible was the candy blue over a black base instead of silver.... The colour as seen on a computer monitor is meaningless . Firstly unless it is a high end graphic arts or printers soft proofing screen ( read $ 1000's ) then it will not be an accurate depiction of the image and the image itself will not be an accurate depiction of the real colour of the bike which itself will vary according to the light it is being viewed in . And all this is before you take into account the inacuracy ( variations really ) of the eye of the viewer. True, but it doesn't answer what colour it is lol. His FB is a totally different colour to my Lightning Tank, Both were the original paint, (his having being used, but underside showed it had some shine, mine was NOS but no shine left) . Yet some books (R. Bacon) show as being the same colour for both... I know about the "no two days had the same colour mix" but the lightnings were consistantly lighter than the FB's Life is stressful enough without getting upset over the little things... Now lets all have a beer! 68’ A65 Lightning “clubman” 71’ A65 823 Thunderbolt (now rebuilt) 67’ D10 sportsman (undergoing restoration) 68’ D14 trials (undergoing transformation)

Re: How many of you own a FS BritTwit #751762 10/06/18 7:11 pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA wadeschields OP Britbike forum member OP wadeschields Britbike forum member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,684 Likes: 275 NYC and York PA Originally Posted by BritTwit Finally finished the freshen up. [img]http://[/img] [img]http://[/img] I havent worked on mine in a few years now but that BritTwit, IS the kinda inspiration I need to get started again.... As soon as I finish the Victor https://wadeschields.tumblr.com/ Jack of all trades . Master of fun! Beer is not the Answer.... Its the Question..... The answer is YES

Re: How many of you own a FS wadeschields #752090 10/09/18 5:58 pm Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area BritTwit Britbike forum member BritTwit Britbike forum member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 678 Likes: 20 Kansas City area 1970 A65F Fire Bird Blue vs. 1970 A65L Lightning From BSA Motor Cycles LTD. (DM2678 Sheet 2) (Revised 31-12-69) A65F Tank 82-9801/269 (Carrs C5666) A65L Tank 68-8188/268 (Carrs C5663) appears to be two different shades of blue Coming to terms with your delusions, is the first step to sanity