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Originally Posted by Gary E
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Gary.......I probably just missed it but how in the world do you get that BEFORE look? Vapor or some type of media blasting? I have a soda/media set up but mine wouldn't get those bits looking THAT good.

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I utilize 80 grit glass bead blasting medium in the blast cabinet. It works well, but some parts like the brake drums where the original black paint has been baked on can be very stubborn and slow to remove. I use it to clean aluminum parts before the polishing process, and also to clean and remove paint from fiberglass parts. If the blast gun is not held in one place it works fine on gel coated parts. Epoxy paints are stubborn to remove, as are powder coated parts.

Absolute amazing results. Thank you for sharing that. I've used sand and soda. The bits came out clean but still mottled (bad description?) 80 grit glass is what I'll try next time.

Thanks again, Gordon

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I find methylenechloride based paint stripper removed powder coat even quicker than it does "normal" (wet) paint. its otherwise a pain to remove.

I had some new harris (powder coated) foot pegs, I started off using the powder as a base for the dove grey and primer but it didn't like the etch prime much, so removed it with the m.c. stripper and it came off almost in one piece.


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Originally Posted by Allan G
I find methylenechloride based paint stripper removed powder coat even quicker than it does "normal" (wet) paint. its otherwise a pain to remove.

I had some new harris (powder coated) foot pegs, I started off using the powder as a base for the dove grey and primer but it didn't like the etch prime much, so removed it with the m.c. stripper and it came off almost in one piece.
I usually burn the powder coat with the ac torch, then it comes off in the blast cabinet.


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Originally Posted by Gary E
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I find methylenechloride based paint stripper removed powder coat even quicker than it does "normal" (wet) paint. its otherwise a pain to remove.

I had some new harris (powder coated) foot pegs, I started off using the powder as a base for the dove grey and primer but it didn't like the etch prime much, so removed it with the m.c. stripper and it came off almost in one piece.
I usually burn the powder coat with the ac torch, then it comes off in the blast cabinet.

Certainly cheaper that way, and fewer problems with trying to dispose of the remains.


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I let my powder coater handle the whole job. She also uses a primer coat prior to top coat.

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Third batch of parts picked up from the powder coat shop for the '65 Spitfire Hornet restoration.

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'65 Spitfire Hornet is coming along nicely.

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The '65 Spitfire Hornet tank that I brought back from the dead. See earlier images. Now ready for base coat/clear coat primer/sealer then paint and clear.

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Progression of 1965 Spitfire Hornet Restoration
Have to find a new painter. My go to guy, for 23 years, retired.

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Tank looks new already.


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Originally Posted by konon
Tank looks new already.
A lot of work went to it to bring it back from the dead. The '64/'65 tank is a bit difficult to source these days, so I had to resurrect a tank that was in sad condition.

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Just got my tank. Rougher than expected. I was advised to gouge the spyder cracks then cover the whole tank with epoxy resin. What's your idea? Resin or just glazing compound before gel-coat?


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Originally Posted by Gary Ori
Just got my tank. Rougher than expected. I was advised to gouge the spyder cracks then cover the whole tank with epoxy resin. What's your idea? Resin or just glazing compound before gel-coat?
Need more information. Is it an original tank, or something new with no gelcoat?

How a bout an image or two, so I know what you are working with.


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Sorry took me a while to learn how to post pictures. I hope this works.

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Ok, good. Original tank. Good that the recessed side areas are still there for the original style transfer. Some tanks I've had to rebuild those with micro.

All those gelcoat stress cracks should be ground out deep enough until the crack no longer shows, using an 1/8" round dremel cutter bit. Some will end up deeper than others Make sure you get the full length of the crack, as any amount left over, even the tinyest spot, will begin a new one.

Blow out the grooves and wash them with acetone or lacquer thinner. I use acetone as it evaporates very quickly.

Fill with glazing putty or micro. I've had good success with glazing putty, but micro works the best. It's just more work. It'll take several applications with sanding in between. I do it is small areas at a time since glazing putty fires off quickly, so only a small amount is mixed at a time and spread with a small soft flexible applicator.

When all the stress cracks are taken care of, then go after the gelcoat pin holes. There won't look like there are very many until the first coat of primer is applied, then there will be dozens that show up. They have to filled and sanded and the paint just builds up around the edge of them and doesn't fill the hole nor bridge over it.

All said and done, the tank will look like this before primer. (I do the bottom of the tank same as the top).

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Thanks for the help. I was a little afraid to go after the cracks with a Dremel. I may need to build up the right-hand upper decal recession. I'll post the results.


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This is how I do it.

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