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That spring was dropped after the '66 model year. Not sure what use it really had or how effective it really was.

And that center stand without the newer side lever is inconvenient to operate.


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I love this thread.... As anxious as I am to get my 67 Hornet project going , (I thought it would have been done after all these years) other unusual projects keep popping up .... But I have a plan.... Should be living at the house full time within two years so ... I'll have plenty to do project wise... I hope I can stay focused on them... Seems retirees on this site still dont have enough time to work on their projects... And I wont be retired , Just wont be in two places....

So Keep inspiring me with these great looking builds.... Gary , I see you go for the powder coating . I think it looks great ... The last painted frame I got done was so thick I can hardly see the numbers. I hear powder coating is even thicker... I that an issue for you, or anyone else.... Not to start a powder coating discussion but I have 4 pre-unit frames and parts to either powder coat , pro painted or paint my self to save money... Leaning toward the latter, if the right product is forthcoming....


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Hi Gary, Thanks for reply, This information will be of good help, as i know now what the 42-4994 # bars look like, I was thinking after i replied that yours seemed higher then the ones i had but was thinking because the fuel tank was not on it could be just a bit of a illusion in the picture. Mine were for sure the shorter ones, and need to search for that 68-4960 #, that is applicable for A50 cyclone Road Model, A65 thunderbolt Rocket, A65 Lightning Rocket.

As all i have to go on are that my old bars had the cable guides and assume that they were BSA, interestingly Richard Philips bars in a pics just previous look seemly close to what i,m trying to find. I really need to upgrade and get some pictures of mine out there, and learn how to send them, I read you suggested a host site ( postimage) a while back, Would you say that still a good site to use?

Also, as soon as i sent send i realised that i should have wrote Vancouver BC, Also need to update my profile!

Thanks for the help Andy

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Wade,

Glad you are a participant in the thread. It's what helps keeps us all going.

As a retiree I manage to stay busy. Not one to sit and watch TV much. Even during my intense months long chemo and radiation treatment for throat cancer last year, I managed to get out to the shop and work for a 1/2 hour or so once in a while, if only to take my mind off of the pain and health predicament I was in. Beat the cancer, in recovery (takes a long time), so now full speed ahead with life after a bit of a detour down a side road. Thankyou America's medical knowledge.

I'm a big fan of powder coating. I feel it is the closet finish to the original factory application, but without the original runs and dried drips. It can be applied as gloss, semi-gloss, or a flat finish. It covers very evenly, and in my opinion has less preparation than a wet spray application.

As everyone knows painting pipe, especially small diameter such as frame tubing is difficult with a lot of paint waste and overspray. Yes, it is thick, but I've never had much of a issue with that. Over the years I've utilized powder coating, I have not missed all of the traditional paint preparation steps and required supplies, ie mixing containers. filter funnels, solvents, hazardous wasted containers, tack cloths, respirators, Tyvek suits, paint booths, paint shakers, stir sticks, ruined shoes, dust abatement, as well as the high cost of the paint itself, etc. As a past aircraft paint prep body worker and painter...no thanks to having to do all that in my hobbies.

I get a lot of things powder coated now, that I might have painted years ago when pressure pots were the standard. Now, with water-based paints and low pressure, low volume application, I'm just not interested any longer. I even had the cam covers powdercoated on the Ford Raptor here rather than painting them myself.

Looking forward to seeing your Hornet project progress on here.


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Hi Gary, Thanks for reply, This information will be of good help, as i know now what the 42-4994 # bars look like, I was thinking after i replied that yours seemed higher then the ones i had but was thinking because the fuel tank was not on it could be just a bit of a illusion in the picture. Mine were for sure the shorter ones, and need to search for that 68-4960 #, that is applicable for A50 cyclone Road Model, A65 thunderbolt Rocket, A65 Lightning Rocket.

As all i have to go on are that my old bars had the cable guides and assume that they were BSA, interestingly Richard Philips bars in a pics just previous look seemly close to what i,m trying to find. I really need to upgrade and get some pictures of mine out there, and learn how to send them, I read you suggested a host site ( postimage) a while back, Would you say that still a good site to use?

Also, as soon as i sent send i realised that i should have wrote Vancouver BC, Also need to update my profile!

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The image of the bars on the Cyclone Comp. is a little deceiving since they are in the extreme foreground, so it makes them look larger/taller than they are. Richards bars on his '67 west coast model Hornet are the traditional later style 42-4968 that are readily available from several suppliers.


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I have two different bars that get cable guides. One tall like Gary’s and one a few inches shorter. Both get different guides, here again short and tall cable guides. I think the shorter bar might be for pre unit or early Star models fitted with a nacelle. Bars are stashed a bit deep in my shop for a picture.

Did the Spitfire Hornet have cable guides.

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Several models in '64 and '65 have cable guides including the Spitfire Hornet.

From a cable guide thread last year here is this image of the various lengths. The long ones are for Gold Star models, Golden Flash, etc.

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These are the ones i,m looking for

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Same as I have on the Cyclone Comp.


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Gary, I,m thinking yes you are almost 100% correct, I need to send pics between the 2, yours and mine which were taken about 40 years ago, i have 2 others but this shows the bars angles a bit better, Its a bit hard to tell but if you look at where the cable guides are situated on the up arm of the bars, they could be exactly the same, I was sure the replacement Wassell bars were higher, but now think i may have thought they might have been lower, I need to send one more pic from back then of a side view, see what you think, in my eyes they do not seem as high as in your pic, other then that, i think your bars are what i,m after, if still available, and just say i tried

Also forgot to say yours have the same levers and grips, Like i may have forgot to mention , i got these bars from a different transaction, other then the original purchase of the royal Star, Long story, but had a buddy back then who wanted to do the same as me and we bought a compltete older bsa , with a absolute all chrome frame, anyways he gave up and i took the best of the litter, chrome chain guard, handlebars and dual guages, so might complete my story

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Gary, one learns something new every day. I have been putting that spring 15-1312 on every BSA I have ever built, never even thought about it. I've got 4 of them being plated at the moment. Checking the books, of course you are right, not listed after 66. I never quite worked out what the spring did though.


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I do not know either. The intension might have been to soften the return of the brake shoes to their inner position stops, or maybe to prevent shoe chatter. Only speculation on my part.


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With the help of Richard P. and BrizzoBrit I got the last couple of parts sourced for the NOS ET coils. Assembled them to the triangular brackets and temporarily mounted on the bike. I had to fabricate the "U" shaped wire tabs on the condensors as I didn't find a Lucas part number for them.

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