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building a bobber #98738
08/18/06 11:58 am
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Hey everyone. I'm new to the forum so not sure how it all works yet. I am the proud owner of a 1976 all origional bonneville 750 in very nice condition. The problem is that i want to build a bobber style bike and I'm not sure where to start. i'm not a motorcycle mechanic buy any means. (yet) I want to start buy getting a frame but I'm not sure which would be best as far as parts availability and such. Don't worry, not a single hair on the bonne will be touched. Is my idea to far fetched for me or can it be done with the help of answers from my new friends at the brit bike forum.

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Re: building a bobber #98739
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I was just commenting to some buddies last evening this i was growing partial to the Bobber look and tried to define what that was to give them an idea. They came up with a "stripped down full dresser in a rigid frame" theme. Maybe! Anyway I would be interested to see the answer to this question too.
Oh, we are looking for 25 x 1/4 x 7/32 rollers for a 37 AJS clutch if anybody can help.

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The word bobber comes from the verb bob.

To cut short or reshape: bobbed her hair; had his nose bobbed.

Therefore does not apply to a radical custom with an extended front end. Though people will defend their 10 or 16 inch over front ends till they're blue in the face, the truth of the matter is, and this is my opinion:

1. They render the machine unsafe. The motorcycle was designed for optimal handling from the factory.( though there are many mods, some beneficial) Even at slow speeds an over-sized front end wants to "roll" over in a turn. These high end choppers that are popping up all over the place suffer the same characteristics. Put an inexperienced rider in shorts and high tech Nikes on one and your waiting for big trouble.

2. The term K-turn is no longer in your vocabulary. You need a four lane highway to perform a 180 &#176 turn. Have you ever tried to manipulate one of these in a confined garage? I shudder at the thought of one of these literally taking over my shop until it's repaired.

I have basically a stock outlook, though i do build "bobbers". I put out the basic idea, ie. disc break, keep it short and sweet for handling purposes and usual upgrades for modern electrics etc. I try to stress the safety issues to the utmost.

This bike was built to customer specs with my basic ideas. Drop the directionals and throw on some forward controls, and you have a sweet little "bobber".

I have now concluded my short dissertation.




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Re: building a bobber #98741
08/19/06 1:25 am
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If that's so John, then were do we get "Bob's you uncle"? And were did the Beach Boys get "Bob, Bob, Bob. Bob, Bobber Ann"?? And what did Bobber Anne do that had them "Rockin and a rollin' "?

Inquiring minds want to know!

laughing


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Re: building a bobber #98742
08/19/06 1:30 am
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hey John. i think we are totally on the same page. I want a safe bike but with the hard tail. Is there any way I can have both?

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The one above is a hard tail. Richard, where does bobbing for apples fit in the scheme of things?


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Re: building a bobber #98744
08/19/06 1:42 am
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Bobber, like chopper, is not really a definite grouping of parts. It is open for your own interpetation. Build YOUR bike the way YOU want it.
To the best of my knowledge, the term "bobber" came about from the pratice of removing, or bobbing, of a full dress bike. The key word here is remove.
Strip off what you don't want or need, go ahead and add that hardtail section, and enjoy it. It is your bike. There are plenty of stock bikes in collections.
Sorry about the rant. I am just so tired of labels like "chopper", "bobber", and worst of all, "old school". It is YOUR bike.

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Here is another "personalized" bike. This one a re-assembly of an accident victim that sat in milk crates for 15 years. Fired by a Hunt Mag, it now sports a chrome front fender. The oil tank was fabricated out of an actual stop sign. Exhaust is hand fabbed as are forward controls. This bike is owned by my sweetheart and could be passed over to the other thread on biker women if she only rode it more often. It might very well end up on the market shortly. Only it would kill her to sell it. She knows since I built it, it comes with a lifetime warranty!



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Re: building a bobber #98746
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Very nice bike. That's what I was talkin' about! I would love to see a few more detailed pictures

Re: building a bobber #98747
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Peeper... I'm in the process of rebuilding a more-or-less stock '76 Bonnie... if you want to turn removed parts into cash, drop me an e-mail at markid0890@aol.com or PM me! Thanks.


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Re: building a bobber #98748
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The chain guard seen in this shot is fabbed from 3/8 stainless round stock with a slight flip at the end. The rider was my shop squirrel for five years. She brought her babies every year and dropped them off at the base of a tree to acclimate them as to where the luncheonette was. Her name, no kidding: Chopper! I could call her from the trees. I'll take some close ups of the fab work and post them later.



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Re: building a bobber #98749
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Hey John,
I'm sending you a red and blue stripped pole for the front of your garage. You can call it "The Bobber Shop".

:rolleyes:


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Re: building a bobber #98750
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Richard, make sure it's the kind that spins!


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Re: building a bobber #98751
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Here is my 1968 TR6C Bobber:


Re: building a bobber #98752
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Where does Phatt Bob fit into all this? laugh

Re: building a bobber #98753
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Hey Biggerfoot,

Very nice bobber, tastefuly done..... is that a diaper in the photo??


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Re: building a bobber #98754
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Biggerfoot-

I'm currently building something along similiar lines and have been thinking of using a mountain bike monoshock setup under the seat. Is that what you've done here??? Do you like how it works/ Thanks chacal


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Re: building a bobber #98755
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I've seen very few OIF bobbers that pull the look together. An easier choice is a non-OIF Triumph. If you do pull it of they look better with a Triumph tank (less problems then with a small tunnel custom tank) and while only my opinion and not menat to be mean spirted, I wish people would quit putting "Harly" style tanks (sporty) above a Triumph engine (just my personal taste). I've re-engineed my OIF slightly to look lower and longer, while no where near a bobber it does reflect an earlier style of bike.


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Re: building a bobber #98756
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Quote:
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Hey Biggerfoot,

Very nice bobber, tastefuly done..... is that a diaper in the photo??
Thanks...NO! Not a diaper...I had it in a British Car Show last year and that was the goodies bag they gave out.

Re: building a bobber #98757
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Quote:
Originally posted by elchacal:
Biggerfoot-

I'm currently building something along similiar lines and have been thinking of using a mountain bike monoshock setup under the seat. Is that what you've done here??? Do you like how it works/ Thanks chacal
The seat is a Drag Specialties Solo Seat with a pair of solo seat springs. It is very comfortable for a rigid. Much more so compared to an earlier rigid I had with a king/queen seat.

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Likely story on the goodies bag!


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Re: building a bobber #98759
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www.2wheelconnection.com for some bobber pics and maybe some ideas

JR

Re: building a bobber #98760
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peeper, as to your original question about the frame. The oil in frame of your '76 will be a little difficult to make a proportional looking bobber out of. Here's a '66 I built last year, I think your late model 750 will bolt in to the same '66 frame.
The rear brake is off a Harley Dyna, front is a '73 Triumph piece.
The rear section is a bolt on from MAP cycle.
This bike goes quick and stops quicker. It is stable and a lot of fun to ride.
You'll probably get more encouragement and experience in Triumph customs at this site.
http://www.triumphchoppers.com/

You can find this bike on page three of the 'sludgetrap' picture gallery with some build details. The message board has some people who have done quite a few of these specials.

If you need tech advise regarding the engine, this is the place for it, but some here have problems with making 'specials' out of classic iron. I do to a point as well. I think you should ride your '76 and build the bobber out of orphaned parts, like the above bike. (I've got a fairly stock '72 TR6 that I wouldn't dream of bobbing.)

As for the rest of you lot, what? no Lorena 'BOBBIT' jokes?

Bernie


'Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience'

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Mrs. Bobbit is dating a golf pro... Nothing sexual, she just wants
to improve her slice.


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Re: building a bobber #98762
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Two things......the term "bobber" has been whored out liket he term "chopper" in recent years....neither term is used properly these days. You can not chop or bob a bike built from a catalog....you have to have an existing bike...... these botique bikes or fashion bikes can have a bobber style or chopper style but are not true to the origins of the name. Forget about that...just use the term "old school" it has not been played out either. Sorry - had to vent.

As far as the OIF..... it can be done. This is one of the best frames in my opinion to use as a platform for a really cool bike. I am about to start working on one myself soon.

Here is a bike. I don't won't classify it but I know the purist's here will love it.

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