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Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90442
04/11/06 2:07 am
04/11/06 2:07 am
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Back on the mainland!
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Thanks all for the Boyer help! I actually have to hold on tight to the handlebars now when I give her some throttle!! cool

Almost have the carbs set up......when I had strobed the bike at 5000 rpm......she was running a bit ragged. When I went to set idle I couldn't get any response from the left carb's idle screw......pulled the slide assembly (which I had previously pulled to get at the exhaust rocker box): busted needle clip! Replaced clip and she purrrs like a kitten.....(well maybe a phlegmy kitten). Now that the ignition and timing is squared away, I can focus on the carbs.

Went for a 30 mile ride tonite. What a difference the EI makes!


Thanks again all,

Steve Prince


'77 T140J
"Vintage Bike". What's in your garage?

"The paying customer is always right."

Fitting round pegs into square holes since 1961...
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Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90443
04/11/06 7:50 am
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Pleasing to hear mate.
"There are none so zealous as the newly converted"
I was once an ignition Luddite and after many thousands of miles am still an EI zealot, contact breaker ignition is fine but the Boyer is better by a long shot.


1969 TR6R
7.62 x 51 is not a maths puzzle.
Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90444
04/11/06 1:23 pm
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busted needle clip! Replaced clip and she purrrs like a kitten.....
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What does a busted needle clip look like?
john


Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90445
04/11/06 1:26 pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by John Healy:
What does a busted needle clip look like?
john
It looks like a paper clip some redneck thought would work just as good as the AMAL part!

laughing


Don't hide 'em, Ride 'em !!

RF Whatley
Cornelia, GA
Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90446
04/11/06 1:37 pm
04/11/06 1:37 pm
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Glad to hear you have your bike up and tuned.

I've known of the Boyer system for 15 years or so, but what are its advantages over points?

Several times on the forum I've read where a lad's battery could be the culprit of several ailments if a Boyer is fitted. I've always been pleased with my points (still a 1-2 kick kicker).

Just curious.

Richard


1977 T-140V
1973 T-140V
2011 Bonneville SE
Author of "Relics and Reminiscing."
Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90447
04/11/06 1:49 pm
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What does a busted needle clip look like?
john


Richard et al,

Actually......a copper paper clip.....especially after a tired owner, not paying attention, gets the clip mashed and bent in the throttle return spring upon reassembly late at night...doh! shocked

Gotta put a coffee machine in the garage.... laugh

Steve Prince


'77 T140J
"Vintage Bike". What's in your garage?

"The paying customer is always right."

Fitting round pegs into square holes since 1961...
Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90448
04/11/06 8:53 pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by T140V-Rich:
I've known of the Boyer system for 15 years or so, but what are its advantages over points?
Better running.

Consistant performance.

Zero maintenance.

For the money it's a no brainer. They are the reasons Triumph started fitting EI from 79 on. If it was available at reasonable cost 20 years earlier no Triumph since 1960 would have had points.


Regards

PieMan

1980 Triumph T140D Export
Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90449
04/11/06 9:16 pm
04/11/06 9:16 pm
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Thanks, PieMan. I may have to take a more in-depth look at the Boyer. The points system hasn't been too bad to me. But complete zero maintenance is appealing.

Thanks again, PieMan.

Richard


1977 T-140V
1973 T-140V
2011 Bonneville SE
Author of "Relics and Reminiscing."
Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90450
04/12/06 12:27 am
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Rich
I wobbled and whined and vasilated for a year.
"Give up my points!! NEVER!!"
The Boyer sat for a year on the shelf.
I finally put it in, timed it, rode it.
Tossed the points.
HTH and eases you pain
Steve


Steve in Tulsa
Re: Chef Boyer-Dee!! #90451
04/12/06 3:03 am
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Man, you make for a convincing arguement there, Steve. I've been as you state your attitude was regarding points.

And I have such a sentimental ties to them.

About 12 years, rode home late at night from work. In a pouring frog-strangler thunderstorm. Hit a puddle so deep I had to put the periscope up. No kidding.

On the other side of Loch Impromptu, my fully immersed points sputtered seriously. One failed, but the left cylinder chugged me the remaining mile home.

Another time, missing a bit, again late at night on the way home from work. Pulled into a dark area beside a gas station to open the points up a bit.

After getting the cover off using screwdriver and flashlight, what appeared to be two thugs were approaching, me in their sites.

Uknowingly, I grounded the right cylinder with my screwdriver at about the moment they were about 10 feet behind me.

WHOMWUUUUSH

I failed to get word to the engine room to put phazers on stun.

In the near darkness, a long tongue of flame shot out of the right muffler followed by a lot of tongue from the possible muggers as they made off in a new direction.

I just got off the bike a few minutes ago after a 25 mile jaunt. I didn't have my flashlight or even a screwdriver if the points began skipping a bit. Heck, I didn't even have any thugs around for a repeat performance. smile

It would be nice to get out on these night rides without a care concerning the points.

What are you riding, Steve? Easy to install on your bike or is a call to NASA in order?

Thanks,

Richard


1977 T-140V
1973 T-140V
2011 Bonneville SE
Author of "Relics and Reminiscing."

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