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What do I call it a 70 or 71 #86597
12/25/05 8:05 pm
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Ive got a 1971(so the numbers say)Tr6r.I know that 71 was the first year for oif.The bike is clearly a 1970.Not oif, front brake is different the whole 9 yards.The ser # is BE 122** Tr6r matching # and frame.I picked it up for 400.00 and plan to restore it.What I want to know is do I have something special here or is it just 70 leftover thing.I would appriecate any and all info. Thanks
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Re: What do I call it a 70 or 71 #86598
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Hi

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Originally posted by britcyclenut:
Ive got a 1971(so the numbers say)Tr6r.
Forgive me for asking, but are you absolutely 125% certain that the second letter is an 'E', and not a 'C' with some of an anti-theft 'Triumph' logo in the middle? Reasons I ask are:-

1. I've known the mistake made before.

2. As you said, '71 was the first year of the oif. The start of production of oif 650's was a very bad time for Triumph, because no-one actually noticed that the 650 engine wouldn't fit in the new frame and last-second mods. had to be made with the production lines sitting idle. Under the circumstances, I can't see Triumph keeping the production lines idle for months from the beginning of the 'season' in autumn 1970, then produce pre-oif bikes in February 1971 ('BE').

3. There isn't any mention of that in Harry Woolridge's "The Triumph Trophy Bible", which would seem to be unlikely given that Harry worked in Meriden at the time.

4. Also according to TTTB, oif TR6's had a six-figure number? Certainly, a five-figure number beginning '122' falls within the range for a 1969 ('BC') number.

Hth.

Regards,

Re: What do I call it a 70 or 71 #86599
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Aside from what Stuart has pointed out,there are some other things to look for.Now, we don't know how much knowledge you have of Triumphs and that brings me to the question:How do you know it is clearly a 1970 model aside from the use of the Pre-OIF frame ?

Does it still have the Spring Gold paint?

Are the fenders painted in Spring Gold with the black stripe and gold lining ?

Are the front engine mounting plates in place (triangular plates with two bolts mounting to the frame and one to the front of the engine case?

Also,if you remove the primary cover, does the case contain the three small breather crankcase vent holes for oil/built up pressure to pass through into the primary and an elbow on the top of the inside primary case with the vent pipe leading up to the rear fender?

If you take off the timing cover, do the timing/camshaft gears have two threaded holes in them for attaching a gear puller?

Just a few things for you to look for.A picture would also be great.Hope this help? :-)

beerchug


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Re: What do I call it a 70 or 71 #86600
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also make sure someone didn't just take a 71 motor and stamp the number on that frame so they wouldn't get hasseled by the cops .

Re: What do I call it a 70 or 71 #86601
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have a simular situation with mine. the #'s on mine are 4 digits and end in NA on both motor and frame. my title reads 1950 triumph 6t they didn't make a NA bike in 50 NA wasn't used til 51. i'm assuming that somewhere along the 50+ years someone made a mistake in the registry or simular. i don't really care as it's no longer original and won't be "restored" and passed off as something it isn't. in ma. unless it's a special construction or such they don't come out to inspect the bike. go in to the registry with a title and come out with a reg. that simple. so i guess it will stay registered as a 50.


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Re: What do I call it a 70 or 71 #86602
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Hey guys.I just wanted to update everyone about my situation.I have to take the fall for this one.My buddy who i got the bike from insisted it was a matching #bike.Its my fault for ASSuming he was right.The bike had some molding on it and after reading some of the posts i scraped it all off and low and behold cc 13xxx was staring me in the face.Im not new to triumphs and know more than the average person about them but i have to admit i dropped the ball on this one.I want to thank you all who posted and im sorry for wasting your time.I promise i will have done my homework before i post another question LOL.Thank again guys and i hope to contribute to this site. Fred


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