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1937 Tiger80 #83448
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Im about to commence a ground up rebuild of a '37 Tiger80. Any info on this model would be appreciated. Would also be keen to chat to anyone with similar model.


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Re: 1937 Tiger80 #83449
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There is a chap in Vancouver BC who in the 1960s raced a Triumph 350 single of that vintage. Over the years he just kept undating the bits to stay competitive. As far as I know he still has the machine but the frame or parts of it are much more modern than the engine. He could well still have the original bits. I will make contact with him to find out what I can for you.
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great , really appreciated. Any little bits will help.


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Hi there NZ,I've got a few bits for a 1936 3S.I got it in northern France and its got the MOD arrow before the engine number.As you may know this is the basic side valve model and was probably left behind after 'Dunkirk'...maybe I could e-mail you some photo's direct?(I did have an original hand/parts book but moving round so much Ive no idea where Ive put it...)Any way good luck... bigt


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Thanks 6T. Anything that helps get this beauty on the road will be great. Drop me an email at brentw at xtra dot co dot nz. Cheers


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Hi NZ,just come across an article on a '36 Tiger 90 with LOADS of 'photo's!I have your e-mail address would you like me to scan the(6) pages and attache them or would you prefer I posted the mag to you(no problemo)?Cheers from blighty, 6T


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Hi 6T, great - scaned by email would be great. Cheers
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Greetings NZTiger80 I have a 37 Tiger 90 which is, as far as I can tell, an older restoration of an original bike which I freshened. Its a great summer ride. If I can be of any help with pictures or measurements please let me know. Short of taking it apart I'd be glad to assist. There is a picture of it with two other of my bikes in Tim Remus's book "Triumph Bonneville and TR6" pages 12, 14 & 15
Cheers
Terry

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Hiya Terry
Would love such pics of your T90, particularly interested in the tank detail but any close ups of the bike in general would be most useful. Email address is brentw @ xtra dot co dot nz.

My T80 has been completely stripped down to parts and Im starting a complete rebuild.

Also if you know of any outfits that are good for parts for these eralier bikes (NOS or repro) let me know.
Cheers
Brent


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Hi NZ, have tried to e-mail you the article but there seems to be a problem your end(e-mail me with another address)...I heard there was someone in Sheffield who might have spares, I'll look into it this week...the offer is still open for me to mail the magazine to you in NZland...cheers 6T :stout:


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Hi 6T

My email ISP sent me an email stating they had blocked some oversize emails but didnt tell me from who - I guess that was from you.
Would greatly appreciate you posting them or to save you hassle I have an FTP server you can login into and save them to. Send me an email and Ill reply with the login details and/or my postage address in case you cant firewall to it.
Cheers
NZT80


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Brent (great name by the way!),

I have some pics of a nice original 1937 Tiger 80 that I will dig up for you. Pretty correct bike, so hopefully they will be of use to you. When you get the pics of Terry's Tiger 90 keep in mind that they are very different bikes, with yours being a 'lightweight' model and his a 'heavyweight'. The pics should be a nice overall guide to what goes where, but very little will actually swap between the bikes.

Talk to you later,


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Hiya Brent - indeed excellent taste in names and bikes.

Thanks pics of an authentic'37 T80 will be great. The pics of the T90 were mainly just to help me identify the general lay of the land with colour schemes etc.
The problem is I have a dilemma.
Everything I see/read about the early T80s depict a black frame with Tiger Silver guards, chrome tank, with silver panels, black instrument panel and blue pin striping.
The bike I'm restoring differs from this in that the frame is black, the tank chrome with black panels, white pin striping, gold decals and chrome instrument panel. The guards were primed and undercoated before I got it so don't know their original colour.
The tank is original with the bike and there is no indication of it having ever been re chromed /painted - the black panels appear original. I have seen one other picture of a T80 in this colour scheme
So my dilemma is do I stick to what looks like the original colour scheme for this bike or go with the Silver.
Any thoughts on the subject are welcome.
Cheers
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Hi Brent, tried 3 times to email you pics and once without attachments but no luck. If you could contact me at GRIFFS4@CENTURYTEL.NET maybe we can hook-up that way.

Cheers
Terry


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Terry: Great to see ya! I don't know why your emails would have gotten bounced, but I'll send one out to you shortly.

Brent: Still need to dig out those photos for you. As far as I know, all 1937 Tiger 80s would have had the silver painted tank panels. That said, I know that Triumph would do 'one offs' for people.

Your instrument panel should be chromed, with an 8-0-8 ammeter and a 25lbs oil pressure guage. The 'Triumph' emblems on the side of your tank should be painted on, as they did not go to badges until 1938.


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Yep Silver is what I thought was the standard as well. But this bike has black panels.....??
The triumph logo is painted on in GOLD. Instrument panel is (or should I say was) chrome. I can only guess that this tank was either a one off or was repainted...the later appears unlikey.
Cheers Brent


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NZTiger, here are some shots of a beautifully restored 37 Tiger 90,



and a 38 Tiger 90 that was for sale at Davenport a couple of months ago.



This may provide a hint about your tank. The 1939 parts list shows the Tiger 70 & 80 finished in silver and blue, there's also a black with white pin stripe tank listed too, but that is specified for the 5H, 6S, and 5T. So, you may have a Speed Twin tank on your Tiger 80?


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Thanks J - appreciate the photos. I had also thought that it could have been a non-original tank. But the decals were painted on which is correct for 37, it has the correct instrument panel for a brass DC40 (not bakelite) and it just feels correct. I can only presume it was a custom job from the factory. Its just about to have the bottom cut, panel beaten and rewelded before rechroming so Ive got a bit more time to make up my mind between Tiger silver and black.
Current status of the restoration is the frame is painted, and the rims respoked and chromed etc. Still looking for a trustworth mechanic to do teh bottom end. A long way to go yet.... When I work out how to add pictures Ill upload some snap shots Cheers NZT80


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Hey Brent!

I sidetracked, and COMPLETELY forgot to post those pics for you.

Here they are:







Here are links to larger (big file size!) versions:

http://38speedtwin.com/images/bikes/1937_akroyd_t80_01_b.jpg
http://38speedtwin.com/images/bikes/1937_akroyd_t80_02_b.jpg
http://38speedtwin.com/images/bikes/1937_akroyd_t80_03_b.jpg
http://38speedtwin.com/images/bikes/1937_akroyd_t80_04_b.jpg
http://38speedtwin.com/images/bikes/1937_akroyd_t80_05_b.jpg

It's not a completely correct bike, but should be a pretty good example.

Sorry about the delay,

Brent


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Cheers Brent, no worries.

Here's some photos pre the restoration commencing. This was after 35 years of stoarge in a shed.





And one just before the engine came out of the frame



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Brent,

I'm jealous! A pre-war T80 is high on my list of bikes that I want to own. I think they are setup just right. Impossible to find here in the USA, as I doubt more that a dozen or so were ever brought here new. The one that I posted pics of was recently imported from Australia. I asked, it's not for sale.


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