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Triumph 650cc Crate Motor ? #81656
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A very good friend who doesn't have computer access asked me to try to locate sources for rebuilt motors that are ready to install & ride.

He's already paid his dues (64 yrs. old & a loyal Triumph owner) & he doesn't want to spend time rebuilding his own anymore, as he'd prefer to just swap out motors & get back on the road & spend his time riding.

He's looking for a Triumph 650cc motor, single carb, electronic ignition & wondering about prices with or without core exchange. (He'd actually rather keep his own core motor as a back-up or for a future project once he's got a fresh runner on the road) He recently moved out of state, but I'm fairly certain his frame is probably late 60's vintage.

Any leads would be very much appreciated & then I'll pass the info onto him & he can sort 'em out. TIA...

(Edit: Phone #'s would be helpful also as again, he doesn't own a computer)


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Re: Triumph 650cc Crate Motor ? #81657
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Not sure where you are located, but Wes at Four Aces Cycle in Van Nuys, CA will build anything he needs in a Triumph motor. www.fouracescycle.com His email is fouracescycle@aol.com He's a great guy, knows his stuff well and will tell you/him anything you/he might need to know including the price. Don't be deceived by his website and small shop. He's good! Tell him Scott from Vegas recommended you talk to him. bigt


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Re: Triumph 650cc Crate Motor ? #81659
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Thanx, Scott & cycarmark! My bud lives in Louisiana & these look promising.

Have printed out the main pages w/phone #'s & will send them along to him.

Any other possibles would be welcome & much appreciated...Thanx again!


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Re: Triumph 650cc Crate Motor ? #81660
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I could go into detail, but I'm not up to typing a manuscript. Just a word to the wise.


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Re: Triumph 650cc Crate Motor ? #81661
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The head's up is appreciated, Tom. Just trying to help my bud find a quality rebuilt motor, but also don't want him to get stung. (He's had some rough personal losses recently, which is another reason why he's decided to spring for a rebuilt motor as he realizes the frailty of Life & wants to pursue pleasure in his retirement. Last thing he needs is a setback right now).

Without any disrespect towards any, will simply offer the input from this thread to my friend & let him weigh his options from there.

When he called me, he was asking about MAP Cycle & wondering if they might offer rebuilts. As far as I know, they've got a good rep, but I couldn't find a website for them to even see if they sell complete motors. Does anyone know if they have a website ?


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MAP does have a website but it doesn't seem to be finished www.mapcycle.com
phone 727-381-1151
also have your friend pick up Walnecks Classic Cycle Trader, never know what you'll find in there


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Re: Triumph 650cc Crate Motor ? #81663
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Riff-Raff,

What part of Louisiana???

There is a guy in the southeast corner of Louisiana that is heavily laden with Brit parts and bikes. He's not real aggressive at selling as he does this "on the side" to "sponsor" his brit addiction and has for many years (based on his collection of "goodies"). Everything that I've purchased from him (including bottom-ends, reworked heads, bit & pieces, odds and ends)all came at good prices. He, also, is an authorized Royal Enfield dealer.

If your friend is located in this area and interested, I'll get his information for you or do what I can to help him get the one he's got going. If I help him, maybe someone will help me when I'm 64 yrs old. Full Circle.

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shel, Thanx very much for the MAP Cycle info. Their website seems to be coming together pretty well. He picks up Walneck's now & then as he never really went along with the computer craze.

Zack, Thank you very much as well for your most generous offer & your thoughtfulness. He's up near Shrevesport, but I called him earlier & he has family & friends in New Orleans (lived in Louisiana for years before moving & then going back) He's pretty familiar with Picayune & would be thrilled to hook into the Brit network in that region. Will send you an e-mail (don't see a private PM option for your account) & hopefully you, your bud & he can hook up at some point in the near future. He mentioned that if he finds a solid new motor for his Triumph, he'll probably ride to Daytona as he's retired & his time is his own now. Thanx again!


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....just a thought,when I worked for Harvey Owens in London in the sixties you could leave your complete engine and we'd send it back to the factory for a complete rebuild for 65!!!!Mind you I was making a 100 a month as a salesman.All the bikes were pre-sold and I'd have at least 5 americans waiting to collect their bikes.....busy times.


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Re: Triumph 650cc Crate Motor ? #81666
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We're in Atlanta area, speak fluent Redneck (sorry no "Coon A$$"), and do parts and whole engine rebuilds via UPS and crates.

We're (what's left of) Atlanta's oldest BSA, Norton, Triumph, Vincent, Matchless, AJS dealership and have been in business since 1948. We sell and service parts for everything from "Ariel to Zundapp". We have a full parts supply on hand, a complete machine shop, and ALL of our mechanics have attended FACTORY training schools and were dealership mechanics back when your pal's bike was new.

In other words... we're a bunch of old farts just hanging around to work on obsolete Brit bikes. Put the engine in the back of the pickup and come see our museum of "thorough deads". You name it, we got one. Or eight.

The best part is we're open 7 days a week, 9 to 9 EST. 770-867-1676. No answer = gone racing.

Give us a call. bigt


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Thanx 6T & RedNeck,

Will pass the shop # along to him, tho' I should have mentioned in the 1st post that he's hoping to find something within a few weeks that he can simply install & go with.

No telling how many motors he's built over the years & even tho' he's retired, he's no "couch potato", LOL! He stays very active & is more than capable of doing a rebuild, it's just that due to recent events, he's decided that he'd like to treat himself to a fresh rebuild & be on the road ASAP. It was an interesting conversation when he & I spoke on the phone. As mentioned earlier, this is a guy who's paid his dues a million times over. When he told me what he wanted to do, I thought "Hmmmm...well.....hell yeah! Why not ? Go for it!"...Then I was feeling envious of him after getting off the phone, thinking "Hmmm...it sure would be a nice option to just score a fresh motor & keep on truckin'"


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I really doubt you're going to find anyone willing to do anything but rebuild his existing engine. In the car world what he's asking for is very common, but matching serial numbers being what they are in the bike world I have my doubts.

Another point is that anyone that takes his engine in exchange will expect to get back the same quality they gave out. When you're dealing with 35 yo engines it just won't happen. So if we sold your man a rebuilt engine with say +.040 cylinder and a good head, and he shipped us back an engine with a worn out +.080 cylinder and a head with broken fins we've lost money.

There's simply too many bikes out there that have been riden to death to do what he's asking for. BUT life is full of suprises and hope springs eternal.

If needed, we could probably arrange an appointment and rebuild his engine while he waits. Something like in Friday night, out Sunday morning. But that would have to be a special request to arrange the logistics.

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I would also point out that within his time limit of "in a few weeks" we could have HIS engine back to him via UPS.

Or better yet, ship us the bike, fly to Atlanta for $60 and ride the bike home.

bigt


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You're right in that it's a tall order to try to find a Triumph motor waiting to be shipped & installed (tho' they are out there) & as you've noted, it would also have to have some documentation to meet MVD's hoops. Told him that if he were looking for an S&S or a RevTech, it'd be no problem, but the demand/volume for Triumph motors simply isn't there.

He's interested with or without core exchange, provided he can find the right place.

Will tell him what you've offerred & give him the #. He'll have to do the sorting out & decision making.

By the way, he's bilingual...speaks both Redneck & CoonA$$, LOL!!!!!!!

Thanx again...


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Logistics= Plenty of brew ?!!!

RedNeck has a great offer,and that sounds like excellent service to me.I think your friend should take him (the shop) up on the offer.I haven't yet met a shop that would be willing to do that,that's good stuff! bigt beerchug


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Absolutely, Jon, it's an excellent offer on RedNeck's part & I'll be sure to pass that info onto my bud....gotta run....


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RF WHATLEY aka RedNeck...

My bud called today & told me about the shop owner where you work & him working out the details for the '71 650cc engine. VERY cool offer by your boss/bud to deliver it in person on his way West, RF, & my bud is looking forward to this purchase. Sounds like a smokin' deal all the way around! Thanx again for that contact info...Heck, my bud actually might be making that run to Daytona with his local buddies after all. Cool! bigt


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Cool Riff_Raff,

Sounds like things worked out for your bud, and in turn it probably works out for you as well! That gives you another Britbike fan to ride with! beerchug


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You're right, Jon, he's psyched about receiving the motor in the relatively near future. Unfortunately, he moved out of state, so will have to wait until he visits to share a lane with him, but he's been into Triumphs since age 16 ? (pretty sure he's 64 yrs. old now), so he's got considerably more experience under his belt.

I had the pleasure to see the webpage associated with the warehouse where RF Whatley works & it looks downright awesome! Any Brit bike enthusiast would be like a kid in a candy shop there, LOL!


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