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Norton Identification please #75750
07/10/08 3:00 pm
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I just bought partial parts bike what I believe to be a 73 Norton Commando 750. VIN 220030. Date stamp 1/73. I cant seem to find any identification for Nortons on the web. Thanks

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Re: Norton Identification please #75751
07/10/08 3:19 pm
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Re: Norton Identification please #75752
07/10/08 3:48 pm
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No, thats for 850 frames. Mine is a 750. Found one though, looks like its a 73. Not sure what model though.

Re: Norton Identification please #75753
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All Commando frames were "Commando".

The only models (other than fastback) were roadster and interstate, and that was just the sheet metal that was put on at the end.


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Re: Norton Identification please #75754
07/10/08 5:20 pm
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Try this link:

http://www.norvilmotorcycle.co.uk/

click on "identify your bike"


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Re: Norton Identification please #75755
07/10/08 7:08 pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by TBolt72:
I just bought partial parts bike what I believe to be a 73 Norton Commando 750. VIN 220030. Date stamp 1/73.
It is a "750 Mk V" (1973) Commando, and would have been built as either a "Roadster", "Interstate" or less likely as a "Hi-Rider" model (no Mk V Fastback).

Commando model identification: http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Commando.htm

"220030" is quite an early Mk V serial number (220000-on), apparently some 22xxxx numbered bikes were sent to the USA which have earlier date stamps, but higher serial numbers than yours?
Those early 22xxxx machines are officially unknown as far as the production records are concerned, the official start date for Mk V production being March 1973 from serial number 220000.

Re: Norton Identification please #75756
07/10/08 8:40 pm
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Thanks! Thats all great info. How do I tell if its a combat engine? The fins are about 1/2 as close between the cylinders and the head, compared to the fin spacing on the barrels. I dont see a C stamped on the head but I dont know where to look.

Re: Norton Identification please #75757
07/10/08 9:25 pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by TBolt72:
How do I tell if its a combat engine?
As it's a Mk V model, then it is unlikely to have a Combat spec. engine.


Quote:
Originally posted by TBolt72:
The fins are about 1/2 as close between the cylinders and the head, compared to the fin spacing on the barrels. I dont see a C stamped on the head but I dont know where to look.
The narrower head/barrel joint fin spacing would be normal.
A Combat head normally has the "C" stamped on the top of the head at the point where the two exhaust rocker housings come together, and the head steady will probably have to be removed to see it, -if it is there, but there probably isn't going to be any C stamp on your Mk V cylinder head?

Re: Norton Identification please #75758
07/11/08 11:35 am
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There were two versions of the MkV 750, Hi compression and lo compression. Most sold in the US seem to be the hi comprssion variety.
The hi compression (9.3:1) cylnder head will be stamped RH6 while the lo compression is stamped (8.9:1) is stamped RH5.
The MkV had 32mm intake ports, the 5 plate clutch, and the standard (non-combat) cam. I have two of those "mysterious" pre-March '73 models. Both built in Nov. '72 and both with serial numbers higher than yours. Go figure!


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1974 850 Interstate
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Re: Norton Identification please #75759
07/12/08 2:23 am
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Well theres an oddity to the date stamp. On the VIN plate, the date is stamped upside down compared to the rest of the lettering on the plate. It doesnt look double stamped or modified.

Re: Norton Identification please #75760
07/16/08 1:13 am
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I checked out the head and I can see H 6, so Im supposing its and RH6 head. Its got a front disc brake but I cant tell what size the carbs are, no numbers on them. From what Im reading about Combat engines, Im glad I dont have one. Im really looking forward to reassembling this bike and riding it. Its only got 5000 miles on it, so hopefully it wont need too much machine work. How do I get a look at the cam to see what numbers are on it?

Re: Norton Identification please #75761
07/16/08 11:17 am
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Quote:
but I cant tell what size the carbs are, no numbers on them
The carbs should be marked "932" (32mm). If you have an RH6 head it is very likely you have the 932 carbs.


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1974 850 Interstate
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Re: Norton Identification please #75762
07/19/08 2:04 am
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I dont see any numbers except 389/203 on both carbs. Shouldnt there be a right and left carb? They are both the same.

Re: Norton Identification please #75763
07/19/08 5:18 pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by TBolt72:
I dont see any numbers except 389/203 on both carbs. Shouldnt there be a right and left carb? They are both the same.
Sounds as if somebody has fitted a pair of earlier AMAL Monobloc carbs if they are 389/203: http://www.amalcarb.co.uk/galleryDetail.aspx?imageID=423&imageText=AMAL%20Monobloc%20Carburetter

The originals would have been left & right hand AMAL Concentric Mk1 carbs: http://www.amalcarb.co.uk/galleryDetail.aspx?imageID=418&imageText=AMAL%20MK1%20Carburetter

Re: Norton Identification please #75764
07/19/08 10:51 pm
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Thats them alright. What works better? The 32mm originals, the monoblocs or Mikunis?


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