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Clutch Slipping ? #75693
07/07/08 6:31 pm
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Calif
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Hi guys
On my 1975 Norton 850 MK111 about 200 mi ago I replaced the clutch with factory parts new clutch disks, plates, hub, and clutch cable all at the same time. but the other day I got on it little in 3rd gear from a low rpm and felt the clutch slip a little do you think I should have replaced the spring/pressure plate at the same time maybe it just doesent have enough pressure any more or any suggestions on what it could be.

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Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75694
07/07/08 7:11 pm
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Probably just needs adjusted.

Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75695
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Adjustment is right on.
What else.

Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75696
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Clean the plates?

Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75697
07/08/08 11:18 am
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Clean the plates and add one of DynoDave Comeau's clutch rod seals.


Ron L
1973 MkV 750 Roadster
1974 850 Interstate
1975 850 Cafe Racer
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1967 P11
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Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75698
07/09/08 12:59 am
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Should the plates have to be cleaned after only a couple of hundred miles on them.

Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75699
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The usual cause for slipping with the 850 bronze plates is oil migrating from the gearbox. As the bushings wear the seepage can get worse. So depending on the amount of seepage from the gearbox, the clutch plates can be contaminated pretty quickly. The fiber plates seem to be somewhat less susceptible to this.


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1974 850 Interstate
1975 850 Cafe Racer
1968 750 Fastback
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Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75700
07/10/08 5:06 am
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Ron,
I bought the clutch rod seal.
Can the plates be cleaned and reused.

Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75701
07/10/08 8:52 am
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Hi there Street F.

Cleaning is ok - do it and empty your primary. Refill prim with SAE 20 type oil (thinner). I use (as many of this board) oil for automatic gear boxes/cases... (Roy Bacon already in the eighties, stated in one of his books "Norton Big Twin Restoration" the need for a thinner oil in primary. A formal deviation from spec so to say).
And put in just below the level mark (the lowest and smallest cap on your primary case).

Said actions prevent drag too.

Good Luck!

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jangg


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Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75702
07/14/08 11:00 pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Street Fighter:
Should the plates have to be cleaned after only a couple of hundred miles on them.
When I ran my combat engine for the first time, I had a new belt drive. After the initial fire up and about a 30 second run, I shut it off and went inside the house.
confused

When I came back out I saw gearbox oil coming down and dripping out of the clutch.

ZERO MILES

That is why I made my clutch rod seal.
Seems like about 3000 more people feel the same as I did.
laugh


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Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75703
08/15/08 5:34 am
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THE MARK3 BLUES....If you still have bronze plates get rid of them. I went through the clean the plates every 200 miles for years...a pain in the ***. I am useing Barnett friction plates now which seem to stop the slipping. you will still have to clean them once in a while to stop clutch drag. Daves clutch rod seal is also a must. Use automatic transmission fluid in your chain case and put your bike on it's sidestand when you fill to the plug.

Re: Clutch Slipping ? #75704
08/18/08 1:20 am
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I just replaced the stock 850 bronze plates with Barnetts and got the stack just right. No slippage and a 2 finger affair. I also use this set up on a 750 and run it dry with excellent results. I use type f trans. oil in the 850


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