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#717890 - 12/06/17 4:41 am TLS brakes  
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Much as I like to keep my C Rapide as original as possible, I do wish to ride it - and as safely as I can. My brakes are fairly woeful, despite readjusting them umpteen times. I have come to the conclusion that I would like to purchase a set of two twin-leading front brakes. Does anyone have any recommendations for a particular kind or source, please? Should I purchase Black Shadow drums, also, or are complete kits available?
All suggestions gratefully received.
Kindest regards,
Paul.
P.S. I have read a fair amount about other, less drastic, options, including a different balance beam, stiffer back plate, thicker cables, etc. and also about disc brakes, but TLS brakes appeal most to me.


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#717992 - 12/07/17 1:55 am Re: TLS brakes [Re: Paul Sammut]  
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#718019 - 12/07/17 12:56 pm Re: TLS brakes [Re: Paul Sammut]  
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Hello Paul,
I road raced an outfit on 'standard drums' - so they ain't that bad (but I did use AM4 linings then) - but they do require careful specific attention.
In line with your view requirements;
An outrigger mounting plate on the balance beam when the beam is still used is compulsory, as the original mounting is poor and flexes,
Good quality cables - in past times some stretched like chewing gum and compressed like a sponge (or so it appeared to me), nice thick inner and on the portion from the lever to the beam a nice robust, non compressing, outer,
Shadow drums are compulsory! - the fins act as ribbing strengthening the drum stopping it from distorting when braking, new ones are even better as they are slightly more substantial in critical areas,
The standard brake plate is useless (I have loads of bent ones from road use) - the cam boss requires at least one brace adding to it and the pivot mountings require reinforcing, alloy brakes plates (which incorporate the required bracing and thicker plate wall) are a significant improvement (I raced on these) - they replicate the works racing version (which were cast in magnesium) and can be made to 'look the part' by paint and careful polish,
The brake shoes can be extended for greater surface area or new ones made to suit,
A Dutchman (I think he is 'VincentBrake' on the VOC forum) makes the TLS version in Europe (DavidD will know all of the manufacturers so can update my post shortly!), never used one personally but judging by the number seen in use they must work.
When setting up the levers at the plate make sure they are at 90deg to the cable when fully operated (maximum leverage) and operate the brakes (and hold) while tightening the wheel spindle.

So, not much to do then!!!!

#718110 - 12/08/17 4:26 am Re: TLS brakes [Re: Twin Pot Phil]  
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Many thanks, Phil. Extremely helpful suggestions (as opposed to that from Richrd the Turd😌)
I will start looking for Shadow drums and get started on the outrigger plate and thicker cables, first.
Cheers,
Paul


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#718282 - 12/10/17 12:14 am Re: TLS brakes [Re: Paul Sammut]  
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Paul,

I would email Vincent Speet first. Vincent makes the double tls brakes and he is a top notch machinist as well as a Vincent rider. You can email him at vincent@vsmmetaal.ns. He can tell you what he supplies and what you might need. Coventry will have anything you need.

Phil has covered the other bases. Thanks Phil!

David

Last edited by David Dunfey; 12/10/17 12:16 am.
#718291 - 12/10/17 5:25 am Re: TLS brakes [Re: David Dunfey]  
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Will do, David, thanks for the suggestion.
Paul.


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