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#714072 - 11/06/17 7:11 pm It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but...  
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The new 650 twin is expected to be unveiled within the next day. Anticipation is high around here. I can't sleep. It's like Christmas a month early!

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#714089 - 11/06/17 8:52 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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It will be interesting to watch how receptive Europe, Australia, New Zealand and the Americas will be to a 650cc retro BritBike. Price and reliability are paramount.
I hope it does well and is a bulletproof (pun intended!) contender in the western marketplace
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#714093 - 11/06/17 9:14 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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I can't release any details until tomorrow, but I suspect with the design team being headed by Simon Warburton (ex-Triumph) reliability should be inherent (as long as build quality is strictly enforced). Price will be mouth-watering if what I'm hearing is to be believed. Cruising speed is said to be in the 80-90 mph range with the potential to just reach or slightly exceed the magic "ton." I've also been told that one motor in the US has already been hot rodded by a non-factory firm (starts with "S" and ends with "S") and is capable of 80+ hp. I'll be happy with a solid 50 hp, to be honest, but I like that the potential is there.


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#714099 - 11/06/17 9:48 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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Greetings, all!
Indeed interesting "stuff" at hand! I wonder just what the "Moniker" will be and what spin-off models might be under consideration. Hmmm... We shall see!


REgards!

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#714197 - 11/07/17 5:15 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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Hurray! I love the "old" badges. Can't wait to ride one!

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#714198 - 11/07/17 5:16 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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Another color option.... Rumor has it there will be a "chrome" option as well! smile

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#714205 - 11/07/17 6:16 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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OMG....dare I say it....this bike is actually quite nice looking !
Can't wait till H's has a chance to produce some performance parts for it smile


Will work for Guinness smile
#714207 - 11/07/17 6:33 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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A bunch of jumbled thoughts. I like it - alot. I like the version with the orange tank and badge. I am leary of modern bikes, partly because of the brake/gearshift being "wrong way 'round". I am anxious to know how much it weighs. I wonder how it would compare to riding a 650 Triumph. The engine covers are "backwards" - what seems to be the primary is on the right side here - like Kawi's W650 - I just wonder why not the correct way, if you are trying to make it retro. We all hate that flange around the tank - everyone complained about that when the retro Bonneville appeared. My preference is bright fork legs and triple trees, not paint.
So if things go the way they do with other manufacturers, they'll probably make an 8 or 900cc version before long. Not sure if that;s a good thing.
Well, that's enough of my jabber. The nearest dealer is in Buffalo, over two hours drive. I'll have to go out there in the spring. Hope they'll have one to test ride.
Al


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#714216 - 11/07/17 7:33 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Al Eckstadt]  
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Al, yes, I agree with everything you stated. I can forgive the tank seam - Triumph did a survey several years ago and figured it would cost about $500 to remove the seam. So I figure $500 buys a lot of gas, i.e. a lot of seat time. I DO like the upswept mufflers, but I DO wish they had bare alloy fork sliders (don't worry, I've already called the powder coater about getting some silver powder in stock!). Fork gaiters are necessary (as in the photo with the black/red tank). I think the weight/seat height will be good, knowing that it's primary customer is an Indian one. One thing that most people forget is that these are not being built for US (you can read that one of two ways, both are correct): Out of about 750,000 bikes sold last year (yes, you read that right!), only about 1700 were destined for export. They don't care what we want, at the end of the day, it has to be sellable at home. I think these will be a success.

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#714229 - 11/07/17 9:19 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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I went to the website and the specs are there! 198 kg or 436 lbs. I suppose that's good. Lighter than the retro Bonnevilles. It would be cool to have a new Interceptor parked next to my old Interceptor, but I think I would have to have the GT. And yes, gaiters with Silver sliders. And also yes, I like the upswept exhaust - the lines of the exhaust system look great.


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#714231 - 11/07/17 9:42 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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I'm thinking the 'flip' of the primary/timing side aesthetics,may be for ease of construction,with "the wrong way 'round" foot controls.-Me too, Al.
Any left/timing(?) side pics?
With 9.5 compression,on 3rd world fuel,I wonder what the combustion chamber and piston designs are,as well as ignition timing.
The 500 Bullet has 6:1 and the 350 has 7.25:1,stock.
My Series 2 with 7.25 Bullet pistons,can run on 89 (R+M/2).
A 650,will operate in a higher rpm range.Maybe I've kinda answered my own question...
An S2,style, oil cooler,would be prettier,but maybe not cover the job.
Also wonder how far can they go with displacement.
Those big inch cruiser Triumph twins,are Frankenbikes IMO.
This is a cool machine,RE may very well,find a market,in The West.
It visually,calls to mind the mid '70's Triumph's
It's a REAL motorcycle.
Hope so.

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#714235 - 11/07/17 10:45 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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Here are some drive side pics.

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#714237 - 11/07/17 11:30 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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Here's a good video...worth a few minutes to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6C01Sedtwo

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#714267 - 11/08/17 1:26 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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#714284 - 11/08/17 5:22 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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This is a seriously good looking machine, if the build quality and the price is right, this will be a good alternative for the Triumph Bonneville, and better looking too imo.
It's been along time since I became enthousiastic with the introduction of a new bike.
These Enfield twins have great potential for customizing too, just like the Bonnevilles.

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#714309 - 11/08/17 9:21 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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Thanks to J Pender and D Leaming for the video's.
I like the conscious effort to keep it a high torque,air-cooled machine.
I've always been a member of the 'Less is More' school.
If this doesn't sell,even with the real economy in the toilet,
I will be quite surprised.


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#714320 - 11/08/17 11:08 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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It fills a gap that Triumph sadly seems to have little interest in, a mid size light weight twin. I wish RE all the best with the new bikes, they look real nice and ticks most of my boxes.
I'm sure they'll wish to export a lot of these, where the singles are more of an anachronism in the western world the twins are vastly more saleable here, IMHO.

To success! beerchug

#714426 - 11/09/17 10:57 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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I think that the placement and design of the primary drive has to do with it being a cross-over type box, fine with me. 6 gears, too.
I like it.

#714427 - 11/09/17 10:58 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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Never liked the Hinckley Bonnies, I call them "fat chicks". I love my 78 and 64 models...

#714466 - 11/10/17 7:15 am Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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I'm 6' and 200lbs so the fat Hinckley models actually fit me well, or vice versa. But they are, I agree, "fat chicks" compared to the old beauties, and I had hoped Triumph would have produced a neat and tidy 650/750 no bigger or heavier than the old models.
Now I hope they don't and leave this segment to RE. If the quality is as good as the looks, they'll sell like hot cakes.
My current economy says I need to stick with my old Meriden made bikes. I'm fine with that.

#714486 - 11/10/17 1:18 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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I do like the concept. But reliability is key in today's market and it may offer more than the W650 that is my current appliance.
Less tha 200 kilos wet and a 6 speed.
Light and fast enough for any highway especially if 6th is an overdrive.
ABS, fuel injection, a very light clutch and Bob's Your Uncle ... Made to order for learners and us more "mature" riders that need the electric foot and lighter weight. ... Or ... Anyone looking for a daily commuter.
Don


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#714522 - 11/10/17 5:43 pm Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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Any particular reason they did not move the final drive to the right so the original RE primary and timing look could be retained?

#717363 - 12/01/17 9:32 am Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: DMadigan]  
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I had a good look at the bike last week at the NEC show. It looks good. The seat hight could be a little lower but the sectioned engine on display looked well made with 4 valve cylinders and cam chain driven cams. The valve adjustment is nut and bolt and the lid comes off for easy access. The castings looked good to.
The only thing I did not like was the steel footrests. The left one stuck out to far and they were uncomfortable. Besides that I think they will sell shed loads. Its a similar power and torque to the 750 Guzzi V7 but will retail under £6K the guys said.

#717871 - 12/06/17 12:06 am Re: It's been a LOOOONG time coming, but... [Re: Pender]  
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I'll be going to the IMS show in Minneapolis this weekend to sneak a peek. I'll try to get some photos and overall impressions. I won't get to ride one, unfortunately, but I'll check out the weight, seat height, ergos, etc. I'm pretty excited at $6499.


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