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#717601 - 12/03/17 8:49 pm BSA C15 Photos?  
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I am working on a 1965 BSA C15 (FSS) and I am looking to find photos of various C15 models (floating ideas). Are there any members here that have photos of C15's? If so, can you post them here? (Google images only has so many photos). Cheers

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#717639 - 12/04/17 6:16 am Re: BSA C15 Photos? [Re: C.B.S]  
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Can I direct you to the BSA C10 C11 C12 forum?

They are a great bunch of lads and lasses, very forthcoming with information and mostly UK based. They have a lot of information about bikes other than the forum specialty which are the earlier models to yours.

Tongue firmly in cheek, you could join and tell them you have a C12. They will gently correct you and provide chapter and verse on the differences between C12 and C15. Hopefully with photos.

Seriously though, there are many cross overs between the 250cc BSA's. All were built for a similar budget and market share.

Are you looking for style options or technical info?


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Originally Posted by Ginge
Can I direct you to the BSA C10 C11 C12 forum?

They are a great bunch of lads and lasses, very forthcoming with information and mostly UK based. They have a lot of information about bikes other than the forum specialty which are the earlier models to yours.

Tongue firmly in cheek, you could join and tell them you have a C12. They will gently correct you and provide chapter and verse on the differences between C12 and C15. Hopefully with photos.

Seriously though, there are many cross overs between the 250cc BSA's. All were built for a similar budget and market share.

Are you looking for style options or technical info?


Hey Ginge,


I am looking for more styling info but technical is right up my alley as well

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And while you are there, grab some of the 2018 calendars .
There is a dedicated photo section and good chance you will find some good Ceefer shots in there.


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Originally Posted by C.B.S
I am working on a 1965 BSA C15 (FSS) and I am looking to find photos of various C15 models (floating ideas). Are there any members here that have photos of C15's? If so, can you post them here? (Google images only has so many photos). Cheers


Surely you mean 1956, right?

I just "googled" "BSA C15 images", and brought up more photos than I could look at in one or two evenings.


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#717899 - 12/06/17 10:05 am Re: BSA C15 Photos? [Re: Mark Z]  
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Google does a wonderful job of identifing your face, your father, mother, cousins uncles. old school teachers ( it is really creepy how it does that ).
However it is hopeless when it comes to motorcycle photos.
By the time you are on the 3rd screen they will all be HD's & Hondas.


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#717956 - 12/06/17 8:50 pm Re: BSA C15 Photos? [Re: BSA_WM20]  
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No, he means 1965. No C15's in 1956.


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Here's a C15 my Brother had in high school, Bates seat, goodyear tyres, bought from Irv Seavers in Santa Ana, CA 1966. Dallas Baker worked there. They convinced him to purchase an insurance at the dealership which covered the theft and stripping of important parts after the frame was recovered after parking at Long Beach State College.


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No, he means 1965. No C15's in 1956.


My mistake, thought they had been replaced by the "B"s by then. When did the "C"s end?


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last C15 1966, first and last C25 1967, became B25 after that.


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BSA messed up the C and B's in the Unit singles, C was used for only the 250's with the B's being the 350 plus but it was really the same engine whereas the C11/C12 had no real relation to the B31/B33 so it made sense then, then they gave up and everything was a B including the 250's.

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Originally Posted by Mark Z
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I am working on a 1965 BSA C15 (FSS) and I am looking to find photos of various C15 models (floating ideas). Are there any members here that have photos of C15's? If so, can you post them here? (Google images only has so many photos). Cheers


Surely you mean 1956, right?

I just "googled" "BSA C15 images", and brought up more photos than I could look at in one or two evenings.






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FSS code is the SS80 model, the "fast" one, Bacons book has a pic of a 66 "Sportsman", it has blade mudguards and no nacelle, hump backed seat. Tanks and side panels the same as the std model, but the fuel tank got chrome panels. The 65 didnt have the seat hump , and kept the nacelle, it did have the chrome blade mudguards. no chrome panels on tank.
SS80 motor spec is different, hotter cam , bigger valves and carb, 65 should have the side points and roller bearing big end. Raised gearing.

For me the coolest looking Ceefer is the Scrambles model with the beefed up frame and forks.
if you have one of these the Rupert Ratio book of the unit single motor is invaluable. not sure if they are back in print, i recall that a 2nd follow up bookfor the chassis parts was also available.


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#718050 - 12/07/17 5:46 pm Re: BSA C15 Photos? [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Originally Posted by gavin eisler
FSS code is the SS80 model, the "fast" one, Bacons book has a pic of a 66 "Sportsman", it has blade mudguards and no nacelle, hump backed seat. Tanks and side panels the same as the std model, but the fuel tank got chrome panels. The 65 didnt have the seat hump , and kept the nacelle, it did have the chrome blade mudguards. no chrome panels on tank.
SS80 motor spec is different, hotter cam , bigger valves and carb, 65 should have the side points and roller bearing big end. Raised gearing.

For me the coolest looking Ceefer is the Scrambles model with the beefed up frame and forks.
if you have one of these the Rupert Ratio book of the unit single motor is invaluable. not sure if they are back in print, i recall that a 2nd follow up bookfor the chassis parts was also available.


I bought one from Peter - it just came in (the book).


So did the SS80 have a 1" carb or 1 1/16"?

I'm reading conflicting info on this. My inlet bore is 1"

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SS 80, 1" carb, late C15S 1 1/16" early C15S 1", AMAL 376 Monobloc, according to Roy Bacon..

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Interesting - my 1965 book reads that it is a 1 1/16" for 1965. Book could be wrong....

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BSA ran different specs on a lot of bikes depending upon where they were being sold.
Bacon is just a sub edit of the publicity material BSA sent to the UK motor press so much of it is UK specific and a lot of it is totally wrong becaue the publicity material was usually pre production.
Easiest to spot example is page 175 "all frames for b25 & b50 models dove grey. Early B25 were grey last batches were black , all production B50's had black frames
Hotter performance parts generally ( but not always ) were fitted to the USA bikes first then the UK bikes latter, if at all.

Dave OTOH compiled information about all of the BSA production including actually consulting the despatch records ( too difficult for Roy to do that ) so what is in the Rupet Ratio series will be a lot closer to fact than anything attriuted to Bacon.


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Originally Posted by BSA_WM20
BSA ran different specs on a lot of bikes depending upon where they were being sold.
Bacon is just a sub edit of the publicity material BSA sent to the UK motor press so much of it is UK specific and a lot of it is totally wrong becaue the publicity material was usually pre production.
Easiest to spot example is page 175 "all frames for b25 & b50 models dove grey. Early B25 were grey last batches were black , all production B50's had black frames
Hotter performance parts generally ( but not always ) were fitted to the USA bikes first then the UK bikes latter, if at all.

Dave OTOH compiled information about all of the BSA production including actually consulting the despatch records ( too difficult for Roy to do that ) so what is in the Rupet Ratio series will be a lot closer to fact than anything attriuted to Bacon.



This is where "restorations" become confusing because information is all over the place.

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Not a problem,
Apparently the AHMA knows exactly what every motorcycle looked like when it left the production line because this is the "basis on which they issue concourse awards that can significantly increase the value of your bike" their words not mine.

Original Restoration is a very ambigious term
There is what the marketing department said they were going to look like and is shown in the art work in the early catalogues
What the pre-production publicity specials looked like and is shown in the pre-season photos seen in the motorcycling press.
What they looked like when they rolled out the despatch department door, regularly fitted with the wrong parts to meet shipping deadlines .
What they looked like when they left the wholesale warehouse as shown in the late season, usually photographic catalogues & single page spec sheets.
What they looked like when they left the dealers showrooms - only evidence is owners happy snaps.

Pick any one as in many cases all of them can be different.
And this is before you get things like flatter bars for east coast & high bars for west coast.
BSA even used different names for the same bike sold on different sides of the USA

Then you have the genuine factory after sales catalogue with all sorts of go fast, specialist racing and styling bits.
And because Ceefers were cheap they have a lot of "Genuine Factory" accessory parts to turn a roadster into a track racer, trials racer, desert racer, or scrambler let alone period aftermarket bits.


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