1956 Indian Tomahawk Motorcycle - $7500 (san jose downtown)
Selling my beloved 56' Indian Tomahawk. This is a Royal Enfield/Indian motorcycle, badged Indian for the US market in the late-50s after Indian Motorcycle company got bought by Royal Enfield. Still runs strong, clean title, currently non-op. Email if interested thx $7500 obo, or willing to trade for 40's Indian Scout or Arrow.
Non-0p, in Californianese, simply means that the bike does not have current tags but is "registered", means nothing about whether it runs or not. Vehicle owners are required to register their vehicles annually, even if not being used... if an un-used vehicle isn't registered as Non-0p, gigantic progressive fines attach to the title. If sold, these fines pass on to the new owner, to be paid prior to registration. So, it becomes a big concern buying used vehicles to ascertain the DMV status... fines can easily come to more than the vehicle's worth. Non-Op actually means the registration status is "current" with DMV, no fines (it is a low one-time fee, and lasts indefinitely, until owner chooses to put it back on the road, needs no renewal).
Thanks for the explanation. Sounds not much different from the British system ...
Vehicles are 'registered' when they first go on the road, either new or imported second-hand. Every vehicle is in a 'taxation class', which basically relates to how much you pay annually while the vehicle's used on public roads; "Historic" applies to anything over forty years old and is free.
Our equivalent of "non-op" is probably 'SORN' - Statutory Off-Road Notification.
Any vehicle has a 'keeper' (not necessarily the owner) who's legally-responsible for its roadworthiness. To use a vehicle on public roads, the keeper must 'tax' it, when the computer system now checks that it's insured minimum Third Party and, if it's over three years old from new, has a 'MoT' - annual safety inspection pass.
If the keeper chooses not to tax, insure or 'MoT' the vehicle (or it fails the MoT), the vehicle must be kept off public roads and the keeper must 'declare SORN', even if the vehicle's classed "Historic". Doesn't cost anything 'to SORN' but, if the keeper doesn't either tax or SORN, the computer fines the keeper ... which is a pita if the vehicle is free Historic. But nothing as harsh as fines passing from seller to buyer.
Natch, anyone caught using a 'SORN-ed' vehicle on the road is deep in legal brown smelly stuff, only slightly shallower if it's at least insured and has a 'MoT'. GB has a pretty-comprehensive system of roadside ANPR cameras on main roads, in cities and big towns, backed up by police vehicles and civvy-operated vans (nicknamed "scamera vans") with ANPR cameras and readers.
However also just to note that in US the regulations are State regulations and vary widely from State to State. For example in New Jersey where I live you have a title for a bike --this denotes ownership. If you want to ride it on the road you get it insured and you get it registered (the equivalent of taxing it in UK) for a payment to the State (about $64 per year). If you then decide not to ride it on the road then you just let the registration lapse. For a "Historic" vehicle---over 25 years old--you declare it and get a Historic registration for $40. This lasts for three years and is renewable in three years increments ad infinitum for no further charge. Bikes (or cars) with Historic registrations are only supposed to be used for traveling to shows and exhibitions etc but no one takes any notice of that. Aided by the fact that a lot of cops are motorcyclists and/or classic car owners themselves. There is no vehicle testing for bikes (no MOT equivalent). For cars there is testing--but only of emissions---this to meet Federal requirements. A pretty lax arrangement compared with what I was used to in UK--but it seems to work OK. The cops can summons a rider for a bike they consider unroadworthy----but the only time this happens is if the unroadworthiness causes an accident.
@Tridentman, Pennsylvania vehicle registration law is pretty much the same concerning vehicle status. However, and correct me if I'm wrong.....when transferring vehicle ownership,in NJ the owner's signature on a title doesn't need notarized ? I find that amazing, since any monkey could scribble in the owner's name . Here in PA, both seller and buyer need to present ID and sign the document in front of a notary. But any bike I brought in from NJ, a previously signed title was nooo problem to transfer.
Anyway,concerning the Enfield Indian, it is nice looking machine; but I too think the asking price is a pipe dream. And I cringe when the seller includes some tidbit of erroneous historical trivia that does nothing but perpetuate half truths or outright lies. As I understand it, Enfield did not "buy"Indian; rather, an English concern by the name of Brockhouse got involved with Indian and contracted with Enfield to supply Indian badged bikes after the Springfield factory closed down. By 1960/61, I think the Chief was the only Enfield built bike, and some of the lesser sized machines were rebadged Matchless ?
Just for the sake of clarity: Steve Erickson's description above is correct.Towards Tridentman's comments, in Califorina, title and registration are separate too. A title, commonly called a "pink slip" referenced in the Beach Boys "Little Deuce Coupe" used to be pink in color, went to a sort of rainbow spectrum, and I believe is back to pink again defines ownership. It used to be that an owner that didn't register their vehicle on time would need to pay penalties for registering late. If the vehicle had not been used, or transported over the public roadway in that time (or they hadn't been caught) could fill out a "Statement of Facts" saying so and avoid penalties. Some years back, the state required an owner to file for a Certificate of Non-Operation, declaring that the vehicle will not be used until it is registered again. Doing this avoids accruing penalties which run into the hundreds of dollars very quickly. In California, a Non-Opped vehicle suggests that the seller has a title, and it can be registered for whatever the current registration would cost for the vehicle.