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A65 split in case #713711
11/03/17 2:19 pm
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I just spent a few days chasing an elusive oil leak. Fixed the wet sumping but found that the leak was coming from a small split in the case where the oil pressure switch goes. Looks like someone has put double bond or similar in there before. I am guessing the crack starting after someone over tightened the oil pressure switch.

Is there anything I can run along the ( very small) crack that would seal it? Maybe Aluminium dust and super glue? Can I get a crack like that welded with the engine in the frame? I really do not want to pull it.

All ideas welcome.

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Re: A65 split in case [Re: Dave T] #713712
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You could try JB Weld which is basically an epoxy. Try to get it as oil free as possible.


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Re: A65 split in case [Re: Dave T] #713720
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Try using three-bond or perhaps a gear box oil silicone. As with htown said, make sure the alloy is clean

Re: A65 split in case [Re: Dave T] #713721
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Oh ya, the crack could have come from someone using an straight thread oil pressure when it should have had a taper?

Re: A65 split in case [Re: Dave T] #713732
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Dave T, what year is your bike?


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Re: A65 split in case [Re: htown] #713743
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Originally Posted by htown
Dave T, what year is your bike?


The engine is 1970 so, if uses the taper threaded switch. And that is what I have, although I think the one I took out when I rebuilt this engine was straight. probably why the crack developed in the first place. I am going to v out the crack, clean with acetone as best as possible, then apply the jb weld. I am thinking I might mount the switch first so I dont break the jb weld when I tighten up the switch.

Re: A65 split in case [Re: Dave T] #713750
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The 70 has the straight/parallel thread switch. Mine does. Probably someone put a tapered one in and over tighten it. Replace it with the correct straight/parallel thread switch. Some suppliers especially on eBay will send you a wrong tapered thread one. Use a reputable supplier.
See the reply by Stuart in this thread.
http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbt...p;Board=1&main=48889&type=thread

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Re: A65 split in case [Re: htown] #713758
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Originally Posted by htown
The 70 has the straight/parallel thread switch. Mine does. Probably someone put a tapered one in and over tighten it. Replace it with the correct straight/parallel thread switch. Some suppliers especially on eBay will send you a wrong tapered thread one. Use a reputable supplier.
See the reply by Stuart in this thread.
http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbt...p;Board=1&main=48889&type=thread



Exactly as I said... Yep, use a supplier like my company - avoid problems

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Re: A65 split in case [Re: C.B.S] #713766
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Originally Posted by C.B.S
Originally Posted by htown
The 70 has the straight/parallel thread switch. Mine does. Probably someone put a tapered one in and over tighten it. Replace it with the correct straight/parallel thread switch. Some suppliers especially on eBay will send you a wrong tapered thread one. Use a reputable supplier.
See the reply by Stuart in this thread.
http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbt...p;Board=1&main=48889&type=thread



Exactly as I said... Yep, use a supplier like my company - avoid problems


OK, now I am confused. my parts book for 70 lists 19- 6508. Your site lists this as tapered

https://www.classicbritishspares.co...60-2133-tr25w-t100r-t120-a50-a65-uk-made

On that same page you quote "We also stock the Late Veglia Type Oil Pressure Switch with "Straight" Piped Thread! Search 60-3719
•Made in Taiwan
•O.E.M Part number is 60-2133, D2133 or 19-6508"

Which is correct for 70, tapered or not?

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Re: A65 split in case [Re: Dave T] #713767
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If the hole has a faced area around it chances are it will take a parallel thread and sealing washer, if not it will be a taper thread with thread sealant.
Taper threads can exert a massive force on the housing. Apply sealant screw in finger tight then 1/4 turn with a spanner-NO MORE


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