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#713605 - 11/02/17 4:35 pm Japanese bike build  
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Do any of you mess around with Japanese bikes? Other than one old dirt bike, I have never owned one... So...a few months ago I picked up a neglected 81 Honda 750 C...Ugly but runs well....
It's being restyled into my idea of a cafe racer....I cut off a lot of brackets from the frame, replaced the front fork assembly with 41MM unit from a 96 750 Interceptor. The wheels ,16 inch front, 18 rear, are also from various year Interceptors.. Dual 12 inch discs in front, single disc in rear, not shown in photo.Hand made rear set pegs and linkage.. You all recognize the rear fender?..After the mock up is finished, the thing gets disassembled, I'll finish the welding and paint it...

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#713618 - 11/02/17 5:04 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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what was wrong with the reverse comstars?


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#713622 - 11/02/17 5:25 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
what was wrong with the reverse comstars?


The rear was a 16 inch drum brake....The front was a 19 inch with smaller dual discs.... I wanted wider tire on the rear, 18 x 3.5 to fit an Avon 150/70-18....And a disc brake....The 17 on the front has a 120/70 tire and larger discs with better calipers and a large tubular axle that matches the 96 Interceptor front forks... With the bike sitting like you see it now the fork rake is 26 degrees like the Interceptor ....These things are cows with a stock weight of about 550 pounds with fuel...I'm hoping to get it down to around 500 pounds..My 96 900M Ducati is around 430 pounds with fuel and feels like a vintage Triumph in comparison to the Honda..


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#713631 - 11/02/17 7:38 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
Do any of you mess around with Japanese bikes?



Yes, I have two, a 1974 Honda CB750 and a 1973 Honda CB500. Cool bikes ! My 750 is a very nice runner and although the 500 runs, I am rebuilding the carbs at the moment. They are both outfitted in Boss Maroon Metallic tanks.....sweet !!



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#713652 - 11/02/17 9:56 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Jon W. Whitley]  
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I would have preferred a SOHC 750 but the prices have gone up even for junky bikes..


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#713653 - 11/02/17 10:00 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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I don't really care for building up a Japanese bike. I personally don't think they modify well. Kind of like Nortons. They don't make very good customs unless you basically stay close to the original styling.

Admittedly those boxy designs from the 70's and 80's don't work for most of us. Kind of kelvinator styling.....

So, I bought one of these.

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In just a few short years, the Japanese bikes went from under powered, overweight and not very pretty to some very nice motorcycles.

Shaft drive, 470 lbs, 70bhp, hydraulic valves, EI, rubber mounted motor, LCD dash display with fuel guage, double discs anti-dive forks and so on. My friend's hotrod Norton can give it a run for it's money, but nothing else of this vintage can touch it around here.

Only down side is fuel economy. 32-36mpg most of the time. Totally my fault. I can't keep my hand out of the throttle.

Cheers,
Bill


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#713667 - 11/02/17 11:50 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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I know of a late model Honda 750 F1 in storage. Original everything with good paint and it turns over with compression. Any takers ?


Don't hide 'em, Ride 'em !!

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#713678 - 11/03/17 1:55 am Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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get thee behind me, mr whatley.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#713682 - 11/03/17 2:28 am Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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My 305 didn't need no stinkin' mods ... just fine the way it came out of the box ...

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#713700 - 11/03/17 7:43 am Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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I got a couple of NOS CB750 clutch covers that I use to stop my BSA sidestand from sinking into the grass after it's been raining !! ..

Does that count ? beerchug laughing

#713703 - 11/03/17 11:59 am Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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The bike is coming along quickly Tony. My project seems to move at a snail's pace. It's going well, just not quickly. Anyway your bike looks sharp, big change from the ugly blob it was.

Honda clutch covers for sidestand pads? Recycled or as they say nowadays Upcycled!

Al


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#713824 - 11/04/17 2:53 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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XS 1100 heavy bike but good fun.

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#713840 - 11/04/17 4:27 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: konon]  
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#714039 - 11/06/17 2:56 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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Dime City Cycles Largo Fl. lots of stuff an ideas. I have a really nice running 78 GS-750 cafe'r

#714182 - 11/07/17 3:15 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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91 Honda ST1100 sport touring has been loads of fun. The bike was new to me last Spring and ran roughly. It is a low mileage machine, 21,500. The engine, a V4 w/ buckets of power delivers 100hp. Water cooled, 5 speed w/ a driveshaft.

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#714185 - 11/07/17 3:36 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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Dave, the Honda ST is a popular bike in the New England Riders group. I might look around for a good used one, thinking of putting the Kawasaki up for sale in the spring, 'way too much power, even though I ride it in the "low" power (70%) mode. One rider I met said to me, "That's a young man's bike," and he was right! laugh

Still, maintenance is minimal, lube the chain, change oil and filter, tire pressures ... and weighs 140 pounds less than the ST.

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#714195 - 11/07/17 4:35 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: kurt fischer]  
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I had considered a Honda ST 1100 for a cafe build because of the unique engine . Wrecks were availabe but still pricey. And the bike without body panels is not pretty and would require extensive frame modifications. The cost would have exceeded my meager budget


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#714263 - 11/08/17 12:07 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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Kurt, in 95 ABS was introduced to the ST. If in the market again I'd find one w/ that feature. Also, soon after the engine became fuel injected, better.

ST's are available w/ tech help and support here.... http://www.st-owners.com/


These fellows know it all, they've been a help to me w/ repairs and upgrades. Dave


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#714266 - 11/08/17 1:24 pm Re: Japanese bike build [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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Thanks, Dave, FI is a good feature, keeping the five AMALs on my four BBs serviced is enough carburetion for me.

In terms of the theme of this thread, bike build, even starting with a new bike means building it to suit, for me at least. When I started riding in '62, comfort was not an issue. These days, what was comfortable a year ago can be painful for me now. I think I was riding shorter distances back then, while now, three hours is a short ride, and I like to get out for a full day. So I have to "mod" the bike to suit -- not really modification as in fabrication, but bolting on accessories, but the yutes on the forums call 'em mods. For my Kawasaki it meant installing a windscreen that deflects the air over me instead of at my neck (helmet-lifting mode), mirror extenders so I can see more than my elbows, rider peg lowering blocks, and the best "mod" really was a mod, Traxxion Dynamics modded the rear shock so it actually works as a shock absorber instead of a rear strut. But hey, the bike was a bargain, then I spent over $2K to get it to suit me. grin


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