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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: chris l] #706906
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stuck the T120 up on the lift.

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have to pull the motor and then see about drilling the head for dual plugs, look over the gearbox, check the cam timing, add a puke can for the breathers, re-weld the tank straps, remove the kick start, and reposition the foot controls.


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: gavin eisler] #706912
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Originally Posted by gavin eisler
need a new rear license plate , the old one has split ( again)


Finally, after 40 or so years of cracking license plates, I came up with a solution that works. I know, a picture is worth a thousand words, but I don't have one handy, so I'll try to make this as concise as possible:

I made a backing plate out of 1/8" aluminum. The vertical edges are rolled to prevent "wag" (bent 90 degrees with a press and then cut right along the bend). The plate is attached to the license plate bracket and the license plate is attached to the plate (top two bolts are double-duty).

It might not have needed it, but I also attached a chunk of rubber behind the backing plate, thick enough to rest against the fender. The rubber is attached to the plate with a taper-head machine screw, countersunk into the plate, so as not to interfere with the license plate. On the fender side, the nut is countersunk into the rubber.

I rounded off the corners of the plate and dressed the cut edges with a file, then wet-sanded and polished the plate (just a bit of overkill here, as only the edges are visible). Anyway, it all looks very natural, and the (new) license plate has remained intact for two years.


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: kevin roberts] #706929
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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
stuck the T120 up on the lift.

[Linked Image]

have to pull the motor and then see about drilling the head for dual plugs, look over the gearbox, check the cam timing, add a puke can for the breathers, re-weld the tank straps, remove the kick start, and reposition the foot controls.


That's a really nice lift, by the way. My Harbor Freight one is the only thing I've ever bought from them that was worth using, but with a Condor chock on the front, it does pretty well.

Those wide heavy ones like yours though, a Pro Lift or a Handy Lift, are really nice and really more appropriate for heavy bikes like my Guzzi or the big Triumph ...

When the HF lift starts leaking or bending, I'm for one of them .....

Lannis


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: chris l] #706968
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Whipped off the primary case and gave each clutch spring adjuster one full turn tighter, it had been slipping in 3rd on hills, particularly when cold.
Took it for a good thrash at the magic hour round loch creran, sorted, clutch is still acceptably light ,while i was in there I took a bit of slack out of the primary chain, judging by all the black bits in the oil its more tensioner wear than chain wear.


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: Lannis] #706979
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Originally Posted by Lannis


That's a really nice lift, by the way. My Harbor Freight one is the only thing I've ever bought from them that was worth using, but with a Condor chock on the front, it does pretty well.

Those wide heavy ones like yours though, a Pro Lift or a Handy Lift, are really nice and really more appropriate for heavy bikes like my Guzzi or the big Triumph ...

When the HF lift starts leaking or bending, I'm for one of them .....


i bought it from that new hampshire guy--

https://www.nhproequip.com/motorcycle-lifts

it was horrifyingly expensive, but shipping was included. i'd been lying on my side on the concrete or in the dirt for years, and i found i was putting simple things off because i just didn't want to do that anymore. i have it hooked to my air compressor, and the whole thing goes up or down with a foot treadle. the only problem is that it's set up for longer machines than i have, so to use the rear-wheel trapdoor i have a piece of thinwall rectangular tubing ziptied to the front wheel chock to space the bikes back a few inches.

you can get this one with side extensions so you can use it for a rider lawn mower or garden tractor, too.


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: gavin eisler] #707008
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Originally Posted by gavin eisler
Whipped off the primary case and gave each clutch spring adjuster one full turn tighter, it had been slipping in 3rd on hills, particularly when cold.
Took it for a good thrash at the magic hour round loch creran, sorted, clutch is still acceptably light ,while i was in there I took a bit of slack out of the primary chain, judging by all the black bits in the oil its more tensioner wear than chain wear.


Funny, I'm having the same two problems, except the clutch slippage is not quite that bad - I have to get on it HARD in 3rd gear to get it to slip. But I think I'll tighten the springs when I'm in there, thanks for the reminder.

I'm getting some clatter from the primary case. When I tighten the chain up to where I think it should be, then it makes a whirring noise, and I have to back it off about 1/2 turn to get it to stop whirring. I think the tensioner is worn. I have a couple of other good ones, but I'm putting off the repair until after the weekend - group ride coming up tomorrow. I don't know if all A65s are this way, but on this one I have to dismount the stator to get the chain adjuster out.


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: chris l] #707017
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Hi Mark, my tensioner comes out without removing the stator once the adjuster is backed all the way out., maybe a bit of filing would sort yours out. Sounds like your chain is worn unevenly, you get that with them,. Also the tensioner blade black stuff is possibly worn through, it gets a hard time when the motor is on the overrun. Its really hard to judge chain tension through the inspection cap, much easier when the case is off, I check through the cap when the motor is hot , it will tighten as the cases heat up.


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: chris l] #707075
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I made a tacho drive nut for the B31.
A quick lathe job, a piece of 12mm hex bar faced drilled and tapped M8 x 1(to suit the power dynamo mag) then mounted it in chuck on rotary table attached to milling machine and milled a 4.5mm slot in t'other end


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: chris l] #707796
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Didn't do anything to the bike today. But, I did add more tunes to the stick for my on-bike player. Gotta have enough music to make the ride to Barber next month.
Also cut some ear pads for the Bell. Even though full-face, the wind noise is terrible.
Sunday I had a fine ride out on Natchez Trace. A limited-access parkway with a 50mph speed limit, I didn't touch the brakes all day. laugh


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: chris l] #707869
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Went through the A10 and finishing up the "To Buy" list of things I need. Crimping pliers for bullets, crimping pliers for terminals. Selection of terminals and bullets. Ammeter, pilot bulb holder, instrument light holder, magneto leads, plug caps, Lucas reflector (rear fender).

Son Alec has the Norton at an old-bike get-together near Richmond today, I thought I would be at the beach so he took the bike for the week.

That's OK, though, because today was "finish up the garden" day. Picked the last of the tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, watermelon, and okra. Cut the gourds and set them out to dry for fall decorating. Pulled up all the stakes (12 steel fence poles, 30 long tomato/pepper stakes, and dozens of row markers), cleaned up the tomato ties, knocked down the watermelon hills. Ran the bush-hog over it all to chop the cornstalks and get it ready to turn under the old plants at the winter plowing.

Planning next year's garden - No beets, more potatoes, fewer zucchini, fewer tomatoes and peppers, same amount of corn, no green beans or cucumbers (we'll still have plenty of canned ones next year), same amount of black-eyed peas, same eggplant and okra, a few carrots and radishes, figure out why NONE of my spinach or lettuce germinated, and find a better way to kill vine-borers. I've got control of the Japanese beetles, aphids and stink-bugs, but the vine-borers get in amongst me every year and kill my watermelons and canteloupes .... Same amount of summer squash, canteloupes, and watermelons. No wild-flower patch this time, too many bugs besides pollinators come to visit. Probably will be about 2/3 of what I did this year .....

Lannis


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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: chris l] #708306
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did some work on the commando. i bought this bike a while ago, and it was expensive. i paid the money, and only as i'm working through it am i discovering that i didn't waste any money on it. it started as a chopper resurrection, and it's been carefully returned almost to bone stock, except for new premiers and a Boyer. this is a one-kick bike, even after sitting for a year, and some of the important stuff (the fragile pistons!) has already been done.

anyway, i've been riding it, and it seemed a bit lean on the mains, misfires that cleaned up if i rolled the throttle back onto the needles. might have been deposits in the jets, but the book specifies three possibilities for the mains: 180, 200, and 220. i had the 200s in there:

[Linked Image]

so i bought some 220s from MAP and put them in today to see what they would do. access on these puppies is restricted:

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you have to take the airbox out to remove the inner bowl screw on the right Concentric (the jet block, or whatever it's called, would unscrew before the jet would come loose, so i had to drop the bowls). forty years ago leroy the norton guy at triumph of oklahoma city explained to me that when nortons were built, they hung the airbox on a wire and assembled the rest of the motorcycle around it. he was right:

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there is like zero room to install the little boots in there without messing them up.

anyway, it's late today, but tomorrow i'll take it out and see whether it burbles. this norton is a wonderful bike, and handles so well i'm sort of ashamed of my triumphs, but it doesn't have the top end that the triumphs do. admittedly, they've been leaned on some, and the norton is bone stock.

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Re: What did you do to your bike today --join in [Re: chris l] #708377
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they hung the airbox on a wire and assembled the rest of the motorcycle around it.


No, horn first wink

Now try and find it without sounding it off to tell you where it is.

You can get a narrower filter element, cut down the mesh width to side, shorten bolts and that will give you more room, it does not get any better with the black plastic airbox but no thinning options with that one.

https://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/nar...skt=414a6b43-d812-4ad9-a7d4-944371e30e60

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i wondered why the horn sounded so faint.


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Just riding the bikes today ... the Norton is still with my son and I took the Triumph to do a parts pickup.

I'm getting an old pressure-washer going, 3.8 HP Tecumseh engine ... the carburetor was completely shot, all the seals, seats, everything.

It's a float-type, butterfly-throttle carb, looked it up on Amazon, a complete brand-new carb is ....

$13.98.

Amazing.

Lannis


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thunderbolt up on the lift to see what was broken so that the kickstart spring wouldn't work.

. . . and it was the kickstart spring, lol

[Linked Image]

how often is something that easy?


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Today I bought this pile of junk 750 for 700 bucks...It actually runs quite nicely...It will be butchered into some sort of cafe racer instead of an old Brit bike...

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I was able to get a few new parts on my recently picked up 69' Thunderbolt.

New Ignition Switch, foot peg rubbers, fork gaiters, front brake shoes.

Also found out that my broken dip/horn switch makes a lot of noise when the forks are turned back and forth. So much so that I ended up taking the battery out for some peace and quiet.


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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
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^^^That is the spitting image of the 1982 kawasaki 750 twin my son bought this summer--his first bike. seat, carbs, sissy bars, the whole look. but his had a weird little clear fairing as well.

i remember 1981. carbs were awful, seat was confining. somebody took the buckhorns off yours and put low bars on instead.

and what's this with the new house? you have visible neighbors now?


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Uh, that's not my house or neighborhood............Yes my new house has visible neighbors but it's a more rural area with actual farmland, hills with narrow twisty roads, beef cows and stuff We lease 8 acres to a local farmer...Nice bike roads. I got the 96 Ducati 900M running like jack the bear and it's insane on back roads... ...I wanted another bike project and a running riding 750 Honda with all parts working was 750 bucks....Be a full minimalist look cafe job..The cycle magazines raved about the new DOHC Honda back then...A bit better than the 70's stuff but still like a shot of Novocaine , you are just a rider. The old Triumphs, Buells or any Italian V twin you merge with the machine......


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Another day of my Trident saga continues :

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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
thunderbolt up on the lift to see what was broken so that the kickstart spring wouldn't work.

. . . and it was the kickstart spring, lol

how often is something that easy?


Don't speak too soon; that is, not until after you've installed the new spring.

Everyone has his favorite method for this; mine is a pair of heavy suede welding gloves - just grab the SOB with both (gloved) hands, twist, and push.


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i'm guessing that it's harder than the triumph kind, then.

those are easy. put them in and wind them up after.


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Yeah you have to turn that plate almost 180 degrees against spring pressure and push it onto the flats. The end of the spring is sharp, that's why the welding gloves. Some people say they can do it with vise grips; that didn't work for me.


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spring came today

thanks for the tip


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Kickstand? No trees or buildings to lean against? On a Triumph I sometimes remove the side stand pivot bolt, hook on the spring and then is usually easy to position the stand and insert the bolt.. Or if the bike is leaning over to the right far enough I use an auto drum brake spring tool...


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