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#707495 - 09/06/17 12:37 pm 66 Victor up on the Bench ***  
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66 Victor Enduro project.... Motor is ready to go in the frame and then I need to sort out the primary side and button it up..... I'll take lots of photos as I progress and probably ask a lot of questions..... smile

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I have some detailed photos of the frame when it was stripped that show the brazing.... Kinda crazy ... I will post them when I have time.....

I started the build thread over on the BSA forum but all of my previous photos disappeared due to photobuckets debolicle . So now is a good time to start the thread over on this forum. I'll reload the old photos as they become relevant to the build again. It took over a year to get the frame back from the painter so I need to refresh my brain on what I did before and need to do next....

Old thread
http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=615448#Post615448



PS . I dont live near the bike so this will be a slow process (but I hope not )


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#707524 - 09/06/17 7:07 pm Re: 66 Victor up on the Bench [Re: wadeschields]  
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Thanks for taking the trouble to restart this series. Many of us (sometimes including me) say "Oh, the heck with it, I'm not doing all that again ..." !

Lannis


OK, I admit it, I'm addicted to brake fluid.

But I can stop any time I want.
#707606 - 09/07/17 3:08 pm Re: 66 Victor up on the Bench [Re: wadeschields]  
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So as you could read on the original thread , there were some questions about how bad the rear fender mounts looked on my frame and now here are some better photos of that area after the frame was stripped.

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At first I thought maybe my frame was brazed by the new guy on the line but I can see a line of braze were the original brackets were or so it seems..... No idea what may have happened here .....

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Although the rest of the brazing isnt that pretty either

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Now I am anxious to see how the painter prepped this area before paint.... I was on his ass for the last year to fix this so I could see it before he painted it but he didnt do anything until he did it all at once frown

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#707608 - 09/07/17 3:14 pm Re: 66 Victor up on the Bench [Re: wadeschields]  
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#707681 - 09/08/17 11:44 am Re: 66 Victor up on the Bench [Re: wadeschields]  
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Originally Posted by wadeschields
Now I am anxious to see how the painter prepped this area before paint.... I was on his ass for the last year to fix this so I could see it before he painted it but he didnt do anything until he did it all at once frown

Those are interesting pictures, Wade. Isn't that the way the world of motorcycle rework seem to go? And people wonder why it takes so long.

Thanks for re-doing the pictures.


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#707792 - 09/09/17 3:28 am Re: 66 Victor up on the Bench [Re: wadeschields]  
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As far as brazing goes the back 'guard tabs on the tail appear reworked. All other brazing looks relatively normal for the factory from what I can tell by the pics.
To provide detail, the frame tube/lug brazing was done in a very hot oven in the factory in a special process so the brazing on the structural elements of the frame look good imo.
Now the rear mudguard tabs may have cracked / broken off and thus been redone. No experienced welder will weld mild steel over bronze as that can result in a dangerous
molten combination. Most welders who know what they are doing can braze over bronze however, assuming they have access to brazing rod. So looks to me on the rear guard tabs that is what happened.

#708267 - 09/13/17 3:52 pm Re: 66 Victor up on the Bench [Re: wadeschields]  
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So I went to pick up the Victor from the shop and was pretty happy with the job that they did. They dumped out a couple 5 gallon buckets of whitworth hardware for me to go through and find some replacement for my either missing or nasty looking or just completely wrong hardware on my frame.... Pinch bolts and shock mounting bolts and stuff like that. Mine had home depot bolts for pinch bolt and even nastier mismatched bolts on the shocks... A few hours searching through hardware and I was golden.... Or as golden as I could be I suppose .....

Things I will need as I put this beast back together are becoming apparent as well.
Bent shock so I'll be looking for a pair of those.
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I'll be looking for a rear fender as well. But here are a few photos of how the fender brackets turned out. It is not the nice clean factory job but short of that its a lot better then it was.
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My fork caps were in bad shape so he put these on. Mine were more round on top so I will keep an eye out for correct ones but these will do for now
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The new pinch bolt I sourced from the buckets look to be somewhat correct
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Ill be needing these oil tank rubbers as these are just sitting on there with the bottoms broken off
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A better photo showing the sweep at the end of my fender. This seems to be correct for the 66 model. And maybe only that model?
Correct me if I am wrong before I go searching for a fender
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This image shows the pinch bolt I sourced which fits but I dont think its correct so I will look for a correct one
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Another problem I am having is getting the axle all the way in. I think the thread are full of 3 layers of paint. Anyone have a reversed thread tap for the fork leg on a 66 Victor??????? Does that exist.... Other tips on cleaning out the threads?

Also it seems to be pulling the wheel over to the left . I dont see a spacer on the workshop manual but I need to no more before I proceed
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Over all though I am pretty happy with the results and I am anxious to get started on polishing , rebuilding and learning more about this bike. All tips and suggestions are welcome. As if I wont have enough suggestions from Ruppert Ratio smirk
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#708291 - 09/13/17 7:39 pm Re: 66 Victor up on the Bench [Re: wadeschields]  
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Hi Wade,
The shouldered sleeve that fits from inside the RH wheel bearing and fits through the brake plate and fits into the fork leg
may be prevented from going into the fork leg by the paint, it's a fairly tight fit
When properly done up the brake plate shold be clamped to the fork leg
The tap for the fork leg is 9/16 x 20 LH, This size used to be common on old bicycle pedal cranks
I borrowed one from a long established cycle shop.
Here's a cheap set from China?
http://www.eBay.co.uk/itm/2X-Right-Left-Hand-9-16-20-TPI-Unified-USA-Standard-Threads-HSS-Right-Hand-Tap-/302309574258?hash=item46630e0672:g:7-YAAOSwsjRZiCGl

HTH
John

#708303 - 09/13/17 8:53 pm Re: 66 Victor up on the Bench [Re: wadeschields]  
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good info THANKS John


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