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BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? #700814
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Anyone here have the Indian made BSA Spitfire gas tanks? I saw some threads but no pictures of what they actually look like.... I'm looking at the steel types. Anyone have one fitted? Hows the quality? How does it fit? Etc. Thanks

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Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: C.B.S] #700840
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From my point of view after first hand experience with 10 of their steel tanks is. They all leaked terribly, they were all made from the cheapest steel that can be found and they will rusted as I watched them.They were all inconsistently dimensionally inaccurate. The gas caps did not always fit and some were crooked. The petcocks bunks were sometimes welded in crooked. I short anything that can go wrong with them has gone wrong in my case. The supplier ignored my complaints and refused to stand behind them. Beware of Rohan Puri [purirhn@yahoo.com] , Vintage Auto World. India, Delhi, 110092, No. 06, Shyam Enclave. A major supplier of reproduction part from INDIA. But he sells on eBay under a dozen or more other names so you really do not know who you are actually dealing with. You get what you pat for. Pat more and get a tank from the UK. Perhaps fro the Tank Shop.


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1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (number matching, very correct in decent condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: C.B.S] #700845
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Some info on good seller from India who does the Hornet tank in steel which is the same as the US Spitfire.

http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=699500#Post699500

Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: C.B.S] #700851
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A positive recommendation could make all the difference. Just stay far keep away from the guy in my post.

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The Devil is in the details.

1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (number matching, very correct in decent condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: Spitfire Ken] #700866
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This is a sad part of dealing on eBay.

eBay obviously knows that the money from sales is all going to the same place, no matter what "vendor name" is being used, yet eBay gets its 'cut," and won't do anything to clean this up.

The late, un-lamented "Marshall from Chicago" used to play the same tricks. It finally became a passion for regular eBay buyers to expose his latest alias, to warn would-be buyers who they would be victimized by.

Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: C.B.S] #700923
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I made a best offer on one a BSA A65 Spitfire US Spec Painted Fuel Tank- With Cap and it was accepted on E-bay. So wish me luck , I will post a link as I plan to open and fit it with a review to help others. I am hopeful but also am a realist might have mad a huge mistake. This is the link to the seller.

http://www.eBay.com/itm/BSA-A65-Spitfire-US-Spec-Painted-Fuel-Tank-With-Cap/182589915526?_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3Dbd556ffabb3644d7a017a8920567deec%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D182589915526

I do note expect it to arrive until late AUG.

Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: C.B.S] #700924
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A couple years ago I bought an Indian made steel Spitfire gas tank (can't remember the seller - perhaps just wanted to forget). The tank was larger in most respects from an original tank, from tunnel width to over all size. The dimensions looked roughly proportional but a bit less "sleek". Blockier looking. Then the fun stuff. The cap neck would not take a cap and needs to be cut out and have a new one put in that will actually work with a flip cap. The center tank mount tunnel hole was too small in diameter to fit the chrome cup that holds the chrome center strips if one wanted to use them. At that point I just put the tank on a shelf to remind me not to waste my time anymore with it and to resist the temptation of getting another "good deal". Someday I'll pressure test the tank to test the welds before I try to replace the neck so a cap will fit. But I'm not expecting to get any happier in the process. Thus it sits.

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Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: C.B.S] #700935
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Is the Rohan mentioned above in this thread the same "rohan" who posts here on this forum usually about Royal Enfield?

As for Rob's link mentioned above, the seller '99-autospares' has private feedback and a low rating which is somewhat worrying.

I agree with Peter that the Delhi tank situation is worse than a crap shoot. I got a tank from India for my Royal Enfield that had a crack at the front which was a major hassle to repair and also spoiled the chrome to weld, but was okay after that and a treatment of Caswells. Of course most folks don't want to weld and then treat a "brand new" tank with sealer.

In another case the Delhi seller just plain sent the wrong tank, it was not even the one shown in the auction. I had to send the fuel tank back of course at cost, and was out $120 to send to India ... could not get eBay to reimburse me, they have no shipment agreement with foreign sellers wrt US buyers, in that case.

And with eBay you never know. In another case a purported 1965 AJS tank had been made to a much older 1953 spec (DNF) in India and was being sold by a US seller for a huge premium with totally the wrong spec. This was the same tank for a few hundred from India being sold for $1200 USD in the US. That US seller was featuring India-made tanks -- supposedly subject to his own quality control -- however he eventually disappeared as well. (Marshall from Chicago?) Personally I will not order from India ever again unless absolutely desperate for a part that cannot be found elsewhere.

Having said that, I did receive a good repro front mudguard for an Ariel Square Four which was one of the few good parts ever received from India. Even so the Delhi seller provided no dimensions, no measurements no nothing... and would not respond to messages or emails... It was simply a case of crossing one's fingers and hoping for the best. In that case it worked... in many others has not.

So it seems ordering from India is akin to Einstein's definition of insanity. Personally, I do not understand this modus operandi on the part of most Delhi sellers which seems to be to provide a poor quality image of what's on offer and then fail to communicate on particulars when questions are asked. And then to provide poor quality goods too would seem self-defeating, because it's once bitten twice shy for most folks,

As far as Rob's purchase goes, we certainly hope for the best for him and that he will get a good product of course. If not perhaps some sort of "class action" would be in order where a number of us write to complain to the seller? With such low feedback I suspect "99-autospares" is simply a new iteration of a Delhi seller who previously had issues on the site ...and regardless of what feedback they get, will pop up in some other form later on.

Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: Dana_twin] #700969
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There was a guy in Australia making excellent 5 gallon glass replica tanks, I was going to order one but didn't get around to it. I'll look to see if I can find the information on them because they were lead free compatible using one of the better resins. He was on the north coast somewhere either in northern NSW or Queensland.
That didn't take long, here is the info or link to the business

http://classic-motorcycle-fiberglass.com/gallery/tanks/BSA_Spitfire_5gal_Tank.htm

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Past: 4 x 1976 T160V, 1 74/5 T150V, 83 model GSX 750 ESD, Z650, Katana 1100(Bathurst Model), 79 T140V, 70's TR6, 2 x 1971 BSA 250 Gold Stars, 50's 350 Goldie, A65 Spitfire semi basket case, 1965/6? A65 LC, Tiger 21 350 & a D14/4 Bantam, 175 Bridgestone Twin with Zimmerman discs!
Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: John Goodwin] #700975
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John how do you know they are "excellent"? Have you held one in your hands?

This is the same bloke who I have ordered a tank off for my Lightning project. It's been 3 years and many requests and he seems to have zero inclination to actually make the tank despite my supplying $250 worth of new cap and spigots for it, and one for him that are useless to me or anyone else. I regret doing that now.

Be very careful. I'm heartily sick of the entire process. What makes it worse is he lives 5 minutes away.


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Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: Dana_twin] #701010
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Dana, I do not now if the Rohan" who posts here on this forum usually about Royal Enfield could also be 99-autospares. I do know that the Rohan Puri the I dealt with years ago had a web site that was heavily comprised of Enfield parts. I would advise you to stay as far away from Rohan Puri or any other vendor from India unless someone you can rely on vouches for them. Oh and forget about any lawyer taking a case against someone in India, well maybe an Indian lawyer would be happy to accept a nice retainer.

Last edited by Spitfire Ken; 07/07/17 2:43 pm. Reason: corrections

The Devil is in the details.

1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (number matching, very correct in decent condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: John Goodwin] #701011
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John, I would never, never, never trust a fiberglass tank. How can you ever have piece of mind when you never know what the percentage of ethanol will be in the future. When I was considering all the risks the following came to mind. I would be going down the street and unknown to me a seam on the tank opens up and the gas hitting the exhaust pipes explodes or the bike in a best case scenario only catches fire and maybe I loose the bike and escape with out serious burns. I believe FG tanks are illegal in the US. Why not just by a good quality alloy tank from the UK or anywhere except India Or just buy an original used 2.5 gallon lightning tank and paint with a pattern that resembles a Spitfire tank.


The Devil is in the details.

1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (number matching, very correct in decent condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Re: BSA Spitfire Gas Tanks - Who Has A New One? [Re: ChrisX] #701013
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Originally Posted by ChrisX
John how do you know they are "excellent"? Have you held one in your hands?

This is the same bloke who I have ordered a tank off for my Lightning project. It's been 3 years and many requests and he seems to have zero inclination to actually make the tank despite my supplying $250 worth of new cap and spigots for it, and one for him that are useless to me or anyone else. I regret doing that now.

Be very careful. I'm heartily sick of the entire process. What makes it worse is he lives 5 minutes away.


I was totally unaware and have to admit to having assumed he was a good guy to deal with.
That's really disappointing to hear.
I had a long conversation with him a year or two back and am now getting ready to get stuck in and finish some projects.
Bugger!


Current: 2 x 1966 A65S, 1 x 1967 A65SA, 1 x 69/70? A65LA space Y, 1 X D14/4 & 1 x B175
Past: 4 x 1976 T160V, 1 74/5 T150V, 83 model GSX 750 ESD, Z650, Katana 1100(Bathurst Model), 79 T140V, 70's TR6, 2 x 1971 BSA 250 Gold Stars, 50's 350 Goldie, A65 Spitfire semi basket case, 1965/6? A65 LC, Tiger 21 350 & a D14/4 Bantam, 175 Bridgestone Twin with Zimmerman discs!

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