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Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #625572
11/13/15 10:49 am
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the menacing air filters do got me skeered, tho


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Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #625574
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I think the Naugahyde covered plank is a real work of art clap


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Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #625581
11/13/15 12:21 pm
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There must be so many custom and cafe websites that they're getting desperate for material. I can't imagine any other reason that this thing wasn't hidden under covers in the back of some dingy garage.

Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #625582
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I don't understand the effort that went into the exhaust. A tangled mess.
The original headers were "menacing" enough.


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Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: D.Bachtel] #625601
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Originally Posted by D.Bachtel
I don't understand the effort that went into the exhaust. A tangled mess.
The original headers were "menacing" enough.


Don in Nipomo


Looks like a valiant attempt at tuning the header lengths.

If I paid to have that bike built, honestly I would not be happy with the results.
It may be fast, and it may be a few pounds lighter than the stock donor but it looks home built. Nothing like a professional shop should advertise.

I would call that a road tracker. Not a cafe.

Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #625671
11/14/15 4:42 am
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that Triton is perfect, I decided I am going to try to leave that patina on my rat T120 instead of polishing it and buying new everything shiny stainless new new new...back in the day the things we rode sometimes looked like that, others polished and fussed and kept them perfect.
Inside however, much more organized.

Like the hoity toity lady said in the antique shop...'Oh honey, come here, this has the patina of age on it!'

Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #626519
11/20/15 3:12 pm
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Perhaps not to everyone's taste, but definitely well-designed and gorgeous workmanship. http://www.gizmag.com/crs-duu-cafed...tm_term=0_65b67362bd-cc6b9b98bd-76684635

Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #636564
01/23/16 6:02 am
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Hi Charles,

Agree about the build quality, really superb.
Design however in my opinion leaves an awfull lot to be improved, it doesn't really know if it's a racer, classic or custom. Bit of a Mix and not Match.

This is better,
Keeping the "feel" of the original but bringing it into the modern world. (except the silly exhaust)

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Regards,
Julian

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Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #636569
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A beautifull eye catcher, but I have my doubts about the large diameter brake discs.
A bit floppy in my opinion, confirmed by the deformation of the rear disc.
Styling for the styling. Not for the useability.
But nevertheless a piece of art.


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Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: Julian] #636766
01/24/16 7:09 am
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Originally Posted by Julian
Hi Charles,

This is better,
Keeping the "feel" of the original but bringing it into the modern world. (except the silly exhaust)

Regards,
Julian


There must be a better way to bring the Guzzi single into the modern world, although the quality of the workmanship looks good, this machine is a clear example of form over function imo,
The exhaust system may have been cobbled up at a house of lunatics, the cast alloy wheels with the immense brake discs do not cut it for me either. Although, beauty is in the eye of the beholder..

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Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #636776
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the Guzzi single

You're right it's a Guzzi engine.

I thought untill now it was AerMacchi. blush

But those ham slicer brake discs are suicide.
Try what happens to a strip of paper when you push it... shocked


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Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #636829
01/24/16 1:44 pm
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The more artsy and less functional a custom becomes, the fewer people it will appeal to (especially, I suspect, people on Britbike.com). The Guzzi was built to set on a black granite pedestal in some rich guy's glass and chrome mansion, maybe right across from the Picasso.

Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #691772
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I find the whole concept of modern day cafe racers to be rather strange. My idea of a cafe racer is a modified bike that handles, performs, and stops well. A lot of the modern so called cafe racers seem designed for pose value only ( and that's questionable ) apart from looking like they would handle like a busted arse, many are fitted with tyres that would look right at home on a T model ford.

Re: Authoritative tips on styling cafe racers [Re: J. Charles Smith] #692077
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Perhaps the forum page needs a split. The image for the page is a chopped down bike but the description for the page is for "cafe/modified bikes and vintage racers", seems a conflict of interest.
Massive front tyres and yards of trail makes for very heavy steering. Great if the cafes are located on I94 at either end of North Dakota. 352 miles of straight line nothing.
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