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#688704 - 03/20/17 2:23 am Best ignition advance  
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Hi all,
I am replacing the magneto with an electronic BTH unit on my Series C Rapide. The instructions make no mention as to the appropriate timing in a specific number of degrees BTDC. Given current fuels, what is the most appropriate "fully advanced" number of degrees I should use to time my engine, please? Should this be different for the BTH unit? I should probably have asked John Healy when I bought it, but I'm hoping he's watching this list, anyway. John?
Thanks in advance


Paul

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#688760 - 03/20/17 2:22 pm Re: Best ignition advance [Re: Paul Sammut]  
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Paul,

I am not sure what John would recommend, but I set the ignition advance on the dyno, which is not much help to you, at the moment. I think BT-H wants you to rely on the Factory specs for ignition timing. This would be listed in Richardson. From memory, it is somewhere around 36°. Many owners have remarked that modern fuels like more retard of at least a few degrees. I think 32° would be fine.

I would use the piston stop method to determine TDC. The BT-H uses a 6 mm rod to mark the point where the timing should occur. When you have set the timing, make sure that after you insert the rod you put the bike in gear and nudge the rear wheel in the direction of forward motion until the rod is tight in the mag. With all of the slack is removed see where the degree wheel is. The point of taking the slack out is that when you slip the rod into the mag it is not a tight fit and the mag can move a few degrees in either direction. By making sure the rod is tight by gently moving the wheel in a forward direction you will be consistent about where you set the timing.

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#688834 - 03/21/17 3:37 am Re: Best ignition advance [Re: David Dunfey]  
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As always, David, you're enormously helpful. Thank you so much. I Have the Richardson book, but the timing it recommends varies by piston make. I have no idea what that is in my bike, so hence my question. I will start at around 36 or 34 deg and rotate the "magneto" to fine tune it.


Paul

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#689311 - 03/25/17 1:30 pm Re: Best ignition advance [Re: Paul Sammut]  
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#689321 - 03/25/17 4:18 pm Re: Best ignition advance [Re: Semper Gumby]  
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I'd love to, Semp, but there is a conference in D.C. at the same time at which I have a commitment. I'm unhappy about that.
Hope you and your R3 have a great time, anyway.


Paul

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