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#688047 - 03/14/17 12:27 am Re: Indian Enfield Title question [Re: Dana_twin]  
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My 1960 Enfield Indian Chief is titled as an Indian Chief here in Nevada.
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#688081 - 03/14/17 1:04 pm Re: Indian Enfield Title question [Re: Dana_twin]  
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Nice to have the family history with the bike.
The frame and engine numbers are correct for a late '58 built machine, so the Jan '59 despatch date provided by Graham Scarth from the factory records seems OK. As you mention, the gearbox is from a '57 model, either an Apache, Tomahawk or Trailblazer. It's a simple enough swap which I've seen done several times, presumably to get rid of the heavy and often disliked 'scissor' clutch originally fitted to all the Chiefs, though his does raise the possibility of a misaligned final drive chainline problem. Since you say you have a title for a '57 Trailblazer, perhaps that was the tranny donor machine?

Edit - I forgot to mention: check the front of the right side crankcase. There should be a number stamped there, AM followed by two or three numerals. This will be the serial number of the tranny originally fitted.

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#688094 - 03/14/17 2:02 pm Re: Indian Enfield Title question [Re: Sandgroper]  
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Originally Posted by Sandgroper
Nice to have the family history with the bike.
The frame and engine numbers are correct for a late '58 built machine, so the Jan '59 despatch date provided by Graham Scarth from the factory records seems OK. As you mention, the gearbox is from a '57 model, either an Apache, Tomahawk or Trailblazer. It's a simple enough swap which I've seen done several times, presumably to get rid of the heavy and often disliked 'scissor' clutch originally fitted to all the Chiefs, though his does raise the possibility of a misaligned final drive chainline problem. Since you say you have a title for a '57 Trailblazer, perhaps that was the tranny donor machine?

Edit - I forgot to mention: check the front of the right side crankcase. There should be a number stamped there, AM followed by two or three numerals. This will be the serial number of the tranny originally fitted.



The Trans# is AM487 which matches either an Apache, Tomahawk or Trailblazer.

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#688105 - 03/14/17 2:51 pm Re: Indian Enfield Title question [Re: Oranator]  
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Nice pics of your Chief.
It looks as though your Dad mixed and matched that bike with several Enfields, which is not hard to do.
What a great project for you and your son.
The final drive sprocket on the Chief is different as it stands out proud a little more to accommodate the wider wheels, and not an easy part to find.
I will need one, and I think I will have to have one made.
Tom Oil

#688231 - 03/15/17 3:42 pm Re: Indian Enfield Title question [Re: tomoil]  
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I'm in the industrial machining business and have a laser guy within a couple miles of my shop. He works real reasonable and the quality is good. I also have access to a water jet guy a bit further away. Am always interested in reproducing vintage parts if financially viable.I'm located in the MId-Atlantic region; If interested drop me a line.


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#688241 - 03/15/17 4:38 pm Re: Indian Enfield Title question [Re: Oranator]  
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Point of information: AM gearboxes were fitted to all Chiefs and to the last 82 Apaches. Not to any other models. That information comes from a page in Accessory Mart catalogue No. 7, which appears to originate from engine factory records. (Those factory records changed hands recently. They have more detail, and perhaps will become available some day.)

#688257 - 03/15/17 6:37 pm Re: Indian Enfield Title question [Re: Chris Overton]  
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What is that Accessory Mart catalogue No. 7?

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#689792 - 03/29/17 2:34 am Re: Indian Enfield Title question [Re: Dana_twin]  
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Turns out you can get the Vermont reg docs as Indian ... but only if you are willing to pay the extra tax compared to RE.... the DMV person was actually trying to be helpful. And when a DMV person tries to be "helpful"...?? well, just saying. Five years later... this thread still alive...! and me too... (but only just)

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