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72 handlebar switch #683569
02/03/17 5:16 pm
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Hi,

Re my ongoing restoration of 1972 A65... the old Lucas handlebar switches have grey cables which run along the bars and into the main loom. the cables which will I'm sure be similar to triumphs and nortons but all with different internal wire colours etc etc ...so the question is does anyone know of a supplier of just these cables, perhaps already made up ready for resoldering to the switch end, in original grey outer cover colours?

Thanks

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Re: 72 handlebar switch [Re: Red and Grey] #683601
02/03/17 8:22 pm
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Hi,

Originally Posted By Red and Grey
the old Lucas handlebar switches have grey cables which run along the bars and into the main loom. the cables which will I'm sure be similar to triumphs and nortons but all with different internal wire colours etc etc

Nope, in '72 and for many years both before and after, Lucas was the only electrical components supplier to the British motorcycle industry and, because the latter were collectively and equally as tight as the proverbial duck's rear orifice, they got exactly the same components. smile

The only particular peculiarity with '72 is, about March, certainly Triumph and BSA changed one of the switch clusters:-

. before then, from the beginning of the '71 season, the cluster with indicators switch had been on the right 'bar and the cluster with the dipswitch had been on the left 'bar;

. after then, the cluster with indicators switch moved to the left 'bar and the cluster with the dipswitch moved to the right 'bar;

. while the indicators switch works the same on either 'bar, simply swapping the earlier dipswitch from left to right means it works the 'wrong' way - up-for-dip-down-for-main; so the dipswitch internals were changed to work 'correctly' on the right 'bar;

. if you need to go for a complete replacement, note the Sparx dipswitch cluster is the later one, there isn't a pattern of the earlier one.

Originally Posted By Red and Grey
supplier of just these cables, perhaps already made up ready for resoldering to the switch end, in original grey outer cover colours?

'Fraid I'm virtually certain there isn't one. frown Or, if there is one to become better-known as a result of this thread, I suspect Andy Gregory would like to know too ...

That said, if you can solder, make your own with the widely-available correct individual cables in grey or silver heatshrink?

Hth.

Regards,

Re: 72 handlebar switch [Re: Red and Grey] #683610
02/03/17 10:05 pm
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Or you can build your own.
These folks sell the sheathing. http://www.vintageconnections.com/ Granted, it's oriental, but it's the right color.
And these folks supply the wire in correct colors. http://www.britishwiring.com/14-Strand-PVC-Wire-18-ga-AWG-p/c114.htm I'm sure they can also supply the correct Lucar connectors.
As long as you don't take them completely apart, the switches are fairly easy to re-solder. Just be sure to clean the contacts while you're at it.


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Re: 72 handlebar switch [Re: DavidP] #683702
02/04/17 5:47 pm
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Thanks to you both, always learn something new on this forum, appreciated.

Steve

Re: 72 handlebar switch [Re: Red and Grey] #683716
02/04/17 8:24 pm
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Hi Steve,

When suggesting sources of wire and grey sheathing, David might not've noticed your "Loc:" ... wink Fyi:-

. Autosparks and VWP for wires and terminals;

. Scooter Restorations have grey sleeving in 2 m. lengths of 10 mm. ID and 6 mm. ID; their website says they're out of stock of the 8 mm. ID;

. RS Components have 10 mm. ID in 10 m. lengths;

. Newey & Eyre have 1/4" ID grey heat shrink though I can't see what the lengths are?

Hth.

Regards,


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