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Not a big Bobber fan #682442
01/23/17 10:41 pm
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Never much interest in them till this past weekend. The local Triumph dealer here just opened a dealership in a brand new high rise condominium about a mile from Waikiki in Honolulu. He just about has a monopoly on anything with 4 or 2 wheels here in the islands.. The first two floors are every exotic and high end cars you can think of literally. Third floor is for motorcycles, Triumph, Ducati, BMW just about every brand except Harley.

Anyhow they were having a big ritzy unveiling of the new Bobber and I went to get some shots of it along with some free Champagne.



This is a link to my site for more pics., if you click on the first image it will bring it full screen and then just click to the right and left to go through them.

pics.

Must say Triumph might just have changed my mind of how I see Bobbers now. Can see all sorts of after market goodies around the corner as there was for the Bonneville and Thruxton. At the end of the day think I'll stick with the 60's and 70's.



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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682443
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Nice set of photographs...better than Triumphs official photo's!

I think I would like it better with full fenders and call it a Speed Twinn.....but maybe that's in the list of aftermarket goodies you can buy?

Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682445
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Lots of nice pix in all galleries... not that I saw them all, but looked at many across several galleries. Nice work, Roger.


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682446
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I wander if they will have Triumph branded leather Tassels?

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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682448
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Like all other bobberes this bike looks like crap imo. mad One for the hipster crowd.


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Peter R] #682459
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Ah well, each to their own. I'm a bit of a tradionalist I suppose, but I appreciate the free thinking in bobbers, which is more practible than choppers!

Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682467
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Well I like it, I could see one in my garage sometime


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682470
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AHHH! Short fenders. Great for throwing road filth and rain water in your face and up your back.

Don't get caught in the rain on a "bobber." It happened to me...ONCE.

Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Kev.] #682471
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Originally Posted By Kev.
Well I like it, I could see one in my garage sometime


Hmmm, I forgot to comment on the bike! Too busy looking at the photos. laughing

Yeah, I'm not a fan of this bike, tho my opinion may change once I see one in person? The typical bobber doesn't seem to have much real-world purpose to my mind, although if one considers that the typical riders don't go too far from home, or only ride on weekends for fun or whatever, then this machine may be perfect for that set.


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: ricochetrider] #682479
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Originally Posted By ricochetrider
Originally Posted By Kev.
Well I like it, I could see one in my garage sometime


Hmmm, I forgot to comment on the bike! Too busy looking at the photos. laughing

Yeah, I'm not a fan of this bike, tho my opinion may change once I see one in person? The typical bobber doesn't seem to have much real-world purpose to my mind, although if one considers that the typical riders don't go too far from home, or only ride on weekends for fun or whatever, then this machine may be perfect for that set.


I agree with you, and for the same reasons.

Although, for a self-consistency check, I DO like "Dark Star" and appreciate that Dieter has ridden it all over Europe with all his gear. But I don't know whether "Dark Star" would be considered a "bobber" or not. It has a lot of practical details that a rider, not a poser, would think to put on a bike .....

Lannis


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682482
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At the risk of creating an echo chamber, would be fun for a 10 mile blast down the road to the local watering hole/eatery, IMO, but not sure about 200 miles of twisty roads.

In all fairness, if one happened to show up in my garage, I wouldn't kick it out!

Cheers,

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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: ricochetrider] #682484
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So this Sunday it's a sunny 80 degree day and I'm riding my Paugho fuel tank, wide flat-track style handlebar, short rear fender, no front fender, non real-world 69 T-150 Bobber along the ocean on A1A. Just meandering around enjoying the day and life. Been known to do this on my 64 Spitfire Hornet Street-Tracker also. Would never buy/spend for a new the $$$ Triumph wants for that style of bike. Also ride a brutal 69 T-100 full blown 70's style rigid. Raked/Stretched Durfee girder, spool frt/wheel. These are fun to ride around in the country just putting around on!! I do have real world riders, 76 BMW R75/6 an 03 Bonny and a 75 T-160. The OEM are just filling niche/voids to keep the industry going. Remember this is the USA home of the "cruz'r"!! Bikes are a big kids toy for most. Most of those don't get our passion for motorbikes. But good on um for what ever they zoom around on!!

Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: bodine031] #682489
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They lost me at "ride by wire" and a severe lack of carbs (and points) years ago.......

But in an effort to fill out the whole story, here's a link to the Triumph factory's new "Boffer" (Mental Note: they may want to change the script styling so that people can read "bobber" instead of guessing.....)

http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/bikes/classics/bonneville-bobber/2017/bonneville-bobber

Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Deadstiffcatt] #682522
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The seat just doesn't do it for me.
A fuller seat with a P-pad will make the bike more usable with a girlfriend, wife and/or kids.
It would have to be cantilevered from the frame over the soft tail/ swingarm.
As it sits now, it just looks like something is missing.

Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: franko] #682530
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The seat looks like the bannana seat from a mid sixties sting-ray bicycle .
I loved that look a boy , but my tastes have changed .

In my opinion , Calling the bike 'the Bobber' shows an extreme lack of imagination .
What would you call a customized Bobber ? A Stocker ?
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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: franko] #682533
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Originally Posted By franko
The seat just doesn't do it for me.
A fuller seat with a P-pad will make the bike more usable with a girlfriend, wife and/or kids.
It would have to be cantilevered from the frame over the soft tail/ swingarm.
As it sits now, it just looks like something is missing.



Yes, that seat is one of the ugliest I have ever seen and spot on about something looking missing. From the tank rearward they lose me.

One of the reasons/problems is the gas tank appears to sit too high against the downward angle of the top frame tubes, which have good lines but don't match the front of the bike. Also, what doesn't help is to have all that space and then a 16" wheel with a low profile metric tire and a fender so close to it. It just doesn't gel with the front or "res" of the bike.

Also, those mufflers look ridiculous. This bike could have potential but not with the designs or designers they used. One of the problems with these modern companies trying to capitalize on the "retro" look is they always seem to miss the mark. That includes H-D, Indian, the failed Excelsior-Henderson and the now going away Victory motorcycles.

My theory, or one of them, is that these designs are from a designer or team of designers who have degrees in design but aren't or weren't lifelong enthusiasts of the marque or any motorcycles for that matter but found themselves employed after college with these companies and with their limited knowledge and or enthusiasm and research skills and vision, this is what they come up with.

Enter lifelong enthusiasts such as the majority of us here and we don't see progress or success but for a lot of us, I think we see disappointment. I know I do but with the exception of the Kawasaki W650 which I give mega ditto's to for capturing the classic look and design most of us long for and appreciate.

This bike would look great as is from the front half with the standard swing-arm frame, an 18" or 19" rear wheel, a bobbed rear fender and a lower profile standard type seat. Also, why do we have to have 16" and 17" rear wheels these days ? Get back to the 18" and 19" rear wheels and get rid of that ridiculous amount of space between the wheel and fender as well as tire choices and road performance and all that good stuff.

My 2c


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: ricochetrider] #682539
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Originally Posted By ricochetrider
Lots of nice pix in all galleries... not that I saw them all, but looked at many across several galleries. Nice work, Roger.


Thank you sir...coming form you I appreciate that.


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Fetch] #682540
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Originally Posted By Fetch
Nice set of photographs...better than Triumphs official photo's!


Thanks Fetch, the dealer may use a couple in some add work locally.


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682552
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Looks like I am on my own here then, Oh well, I always did march to the beat of a different drum, never one to conform me grin


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682570
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I dont hate it. The seat does need some tweaking . The way it swings up at the rear of the seat is weird. Easy fix I presume. Its not a hard tail correct? Is it a monoshock ?


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Change the seat and exhaust and I'm good! Prefer the scrambler, though!



Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682623
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well, i think the new one stinks. but this one from deus ex machina pushes all my buttons.



can't figure out why. my favorite rider has clip ons.


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: kevin roberts] #682629
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I built this bobber about 5 years ago, actually bob job,for a good friend. I rode it for three hours on a local rally and it does punish.Fun to ride for 1/2 hour...Built from junk parts so no Triumphs were hurt...
The new Triumph is just great for riders that like that kind of machine...




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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682692
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Just adding a bit more fuel to the fire.

Dirty Rascal


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Re: Not a big Bobber fan [Re: Roger Gulledge] #682717
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