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#672908 - 10/30/16 5:38 pm Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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What Allan said at the head mod bit was.
"For jetting start with same slide, 105 needle and needle in lowest position and stick with same main jet. You may end up coming down two or 4 sizes with the main jet. "

Pretty close so far, it will be interesting to go down MJ sizes, I thinks 190s next, may have 180s as well.


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#672918 - 10/30/16 8:02 pm Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Another thing to remember Gavin is main jet starts to influence from half throttle, so if you require a main jet change, you might end up going through the full testing again.

Some of my head modifications have needed to go leaner at the main jet, and some richer. The only thing which follows with that is the ones which will Rev harder following the mod require a bigger mains, I made one which revved out at 7200, but it had bags of torque in each gear. I dropped 4 main jet sizes on that one.

I ended up fitting 32mm carbs to my lightning because with the potted head and big cam it was too Rich with 930's on leanest jetting possible. Now with 932's I'm working richer again. Just need some time to get out on it.


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Sounds like all your work is paying off. Your reports sound good. I hope you keep on enjoying the old bike!


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#673091 - 11/01/16 1:12 pm Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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More better again today,after a fright, a lot of glistening stuff had appeared on the oil pipes and motor top, not oil, then the penny dropped , I had given it a general blessing with ACF 50 to hold the salt at bay, that was the shiny stuff. woo hoo. it dawned clear and sharp, while the frost turned to dew and lifted, I dropped the needles to top clip / groove number 1 and changed the mains to 190s. Then, off into town for the messages.
Stopped at Ali's and got the strobe on it, as found pretty retarded,maybe 10- 20 degrees! had to move the pick up plate almost to the end of the advance side from its mid position, now timed a baw hair advanced. Much better, perkier all round, as you would expect, idle lowered another 1/4 turn at the throttle stops. Picks up her skirts now and wants to take off at 3 K, much like before, seems to be carburetting well, no snaps or surges. This was a two man job, the rearward torque reaction needed manual restraint while the motor was revved to 5K.

Visited the dump/ resyck shop looking for floor tiles for the shed renovation, because of the frost they have all been dumped properly, bugger,got some still in the packet hardware,electric hob element (ring) , brass corner pads, hinges , a garden hose and a Suffolk latch door sneck for a fiver, deal.,

While waiting at a set of traffic lights enjoying the steady tick over a fellow motorcyclist pulled up on the scabbiest Hinkley triumph I have ever seen, it looked like it had never been washed , the BSA sparkled back in defiance, like a tart, we exchanged pleasantries and he clanked off.
Also popped into the painter, the paint has wrinkled round the filler cap, he had painted the cap lid seal zone internally, this all fell off at the first fill, I hope I got most of it out.
he is a decent sort, and will make good the failed area over the Winter. nae probs.
hes done a few tanks and says this is the first to come back like this.
A great day, dry roads and clear skies, bike running better , more perky at 2-3 K than I remember, no pinking, answering the throttle better, lovely.

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Hi Gavin

Hope the neighbours and all around have got the women, children and sheep well off the road sides! Sounds like you've made a good bit of progress.

John

#673122 - 11/01/16 5:23 pm Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Certainly closing in on the zenith, as the weather heads for its Nadir, good shake down runs, all working well, seems a shame to park it up for the Winter. Realistically it will be wets roads and leaves from now on with a dash of salt to follow. I know the motor is pretty much sorted , I want to mod the kick start shaft to take the earlier style cotter, the flat needs to go deeper, the current kick start lever has a crack at the welded repair that was done in the mid 90s, the new LC one wont fit as is.. I have a list of things to do to it but none too urgent. New primary clutch basket thrust washer chain sprocket, but theres life in this one and its behaving well so maybe B list.
A list, a better front mudguard with a real fork brace, tricky this, the later disc triumphs had a sturdy set up, but the forks and braces are further apart/wider. Maybe Carbon fibre, its a simple U shape, just the brace, hmm, using later triumph fork end caps with stay mounts there could be a rear loop as well and a decent SS blade, should be fun. The front brake is good now ,settling in and getting even better , the rear is not powerful but useful in gravel because of this , handy.
Oil system mods, cooling to head from relief valve as per Nick L , tempting.
Renovation of push rod adjuster type exhaust valve rockers is underway, I have removed the broken adjuster and sourced some land rover ! bits that have the same 5/16 UNF threads , and a ball end, but, the ball is too big, this maybe reduced with a ball turner to suit ( I hope), the old ones were pretty ropey , the button end was inserted into a very hollow threaded part, too hollow , thats why it had failed. I think they were just socket headed grub screws that had been drilled for the old buttons. Its never easy, or over in this case.

I would also like to try softer fork springs, reading about fork tuning , before messing with damping its important to get the spring rate correct, the front end is planted but a little firm, maybe as speeds rise I will change my opinion. The stiffer springs have lifted the front end a bit compared to the older soggy set up.I also want to repair the worn fork slider/ brace the fork sliders to give Johns dampers a fair crack of the whip.


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#673137 - 11/01/16 6:49 pm Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Pinking will be reduced for the main reason that when you open the throttle, instead of having an increased dynamic pressure but not the fuel ratio to match it (until port vacuum has caught up), but the port vacuum rises much quicker, so your getting the correct fuel ratio sooner as throttle is opened. So no momentary lean signal and no pinking. But you do get a far better throttle response.


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#673174 - 11/02/16 8:06 am Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Reviewing progress so far. Its running well, but , having done the initial balance /idle mixtures with the choke on, and subsequently lowered the needle two more notches, then finding this was all done with the timing retarded, I will revisit the idle settings again.
venhills are getting more cable business, I want 45 degree ferrules at the twist grip, and brake noodles for the choke cables as well to clean up the carb entries..
I have also sourced T140 carb to filter rubbers which should fit straight on , the later Bonnies had the carbs further out, almost where mine sit now, the intake rubber fits on the carb spigot and just pushes into the airbox with no grommet edge, that should clean up the carb entries a bit. Also ordered neater fuel pipe clips, if i count all the hose clamps in the cubic foot behind the cylinder head I get,2 balance pipe clips 4 carb air rubber clips, 6 fuel pipe clips and a few more on the oil pipes.

Interesting the way the porting has affected the carbs and ignition timing, looks like higher gas speeds are lifting more at the needle range, now down to 105s with needle in no.1 groove.
previous timing was a shade retarded from rotor marks to prevent pinking when pulling on a hill at 3.5k, no sign of this now.

I looked at a Buell /Evo Sportster oil pump the other day, the BSA oil pump is about a quarter of the size of the Buell, the B pump in question was getting replaced for a bigger/ better one ( the trick one was a cool 1,000, oof! makes some of the BSA upgrades seem like a real bargain.

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back on it, visited the bike shop to compare synchronising gear, first with the ballometer


Then we hooked up the shop balancer, the ballometeer was within a baw hair, when checked.


Thats Ali looking suitably amazed, he had never seen a ballometer before


This 51 A10 was on the bench,



after fitting the primary drive, filling the gearbox, fitting the carb and pipes, it ran very well, started first kick, its just had a fresh bottom end put in. mechanically very quiet compared to my A65. Sounded lovely. The A10 has some choice bodges on the frame bolts, lashed up with metric all thread, yeuch.It was only in to get the motor done. The steering head is loosey goosey as well.

2nd tank full, 1/2 of this was running retarded on rich carb settings, last 50 miles or so is with better settings.

Your real-world MPG average is 49.13, covering 160 miles using 3.26 gallons of fuel.


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Your fuel economy is still quite low Gavin. It could be worth trying the longer/fatter Norton needles to lean the mixture further.

On sensible runs, my A65 would see 70+ at touring speeds and much more following the head modification. You could still be a little bit rich or maybe low because of the running in still.


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Out of interest. What gearing are you running? I run what is equivalent to 19:42 (which is a gnats taller than 21;47) I may switch back to 20:42 as it pulled this with ease.


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21:47 gearing, sits at 60 per at about 3,250, 70 per is just over 4K ( not done this lately) the last tank is not too illustrative, mostly short 10 -12 mile runs with lots of low gear town work on over rich needle settings and retarded ignition, dawdling behind lines of traffic on wet leafy roads a good bit of the time, the next will be more telling.
Each trip through Oban is 1st and 2nd for about 4 miles, must have done that at least 5 times. Only in top about 50 percent of the time. If I get a good day I may try Glen Coe, the loop is a neat 100 miles of mostly open road, if the snow holds back.
Wheres a good place to get these Norton type needles? will give them a try for experiments sake.


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#673329 - 11/03/16 6:35 pm Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Some serendipity today, dug out an MZ fork spring , Kommando crunched the numbers.
Stock spring original BSA rate was 25 lb/" , I cut about 75mm off , now the rate is 28 and too stiff.
i plugged my weight into an online rate calculator and got 22 lb/" as an ideal. Cutting the MZ springs to give close to this means I will reduce the stroke by about an inch , angle grinder time. If its too soft I will shorten them and lose more stroke , prepared for 4 " stroke if needed, lowering the front would be good, put more of the forks in the tubes. New custom springs are 55 quid each to my spec , thats plan B.
SWMBO is away for a hen week soon, so the bike will come Ben for a mess around.


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That would explain the poor MPG's Gavin. I have a set of norton needles which you could have but they've done some mileage now, AMAL will have them in stock. From memory the sub code for the partsnis 104 (928/104) but it is the needle with 5 ID marking rings.


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new t140 carb intake rubbers now installed , much tidier and a good/ perfect fit. no clips required, another scabby area sorted out.

It was a balmy 5C when I pulled the bike out of the shed to fit the new rubbers.
Started first kick with a tickle and choke.
paint lifting round filler.


Tools loaded.

Combustion.

Road filth, the new peg mount ,a bit tidier than before.

Fork gaiters are earning their keep.


So balmy I went for the t shirt, fleece, windproof layer, quilted liner and jacket. Balaclava and a pot of soup for the return. 60 joyous miles later, toes,knees and hands like frozen snotters, otherwise fun. Mount doom has a dusting of snow now. Very quiet roads , fun had on favourite corners, handling is rock solid, on rails, think and go. Motor v smooth around 3k plus , right at the 60 mph zone, lovely and stress free.

Played with the choke again at 1/2 throttle, it makes it worse so still a bit rich above 1/2 throttle, will try the Notrun needles.

Someone asked about the tyres.
Avon Roadriders, 110/90 x 18 on rear, 90/90 x 19 on front, running 26 psi front, 32 psi rear. Good tyres, better than the Dunlop Arrowmax previously fitted.

Gearbox freeing up well, now getting neutral at standstill every time.

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Your real-world MPG average is 63.55, covering 122 miles using 1.92 gallons of fuel.









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Did the Glen Coe loop today, twa perr o socks, een perr hand rocht, long Johns, balacalava , hands still suffered . Sat at a steady sixty per, most of the way.
Witnessed an amazing low speed car pranh in the Green Welly car park, the driving muppet had a coughing fit and mounted the rear quarter of the prangee. it was brilliant to watch, no one hurt,

The BSA didnt like the other bikes, I enjoyed a bowl of Cullen Skink while it sulked in the bike park.

The terrible mountains of Glen Coe.


Thats not sunshine its photic frost, fn freezin.

Buchaille Etive mhor, the great shepherd of Etive, one of the Glens most iconic lumps, the BSA could climb it if geared correctly.


Basking in the sea reflected rays at Cuil Bay Duror.

The horrible tops of Morvern, one of the wettest places in Scotland, rarely dry today, WInd NE F5. with a bite.

In glove warming mode.


Outstanding in its field, again, sorry,


Quite a pleasant run, apart from the cold!,
Steady driving on open roads, best fuel economy so far.
Your real-world MPG average is 65.95, covering 100 miles using 1.52 gallons of fuel..

If it gets any better it will be making fuel as we travel.Over 500 miles now, getting more beans and luvvin it. Super smooth at 3- 4 K, not been past 4 yet.


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Great ride; great pictures, Gavin. Now I have to get away from the computer and go warm up somewhere. I wonder if there is anyplace around here to buy a bowl of Cullen skink?


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To make good Cullen Skink,you need hot smoked Haddock, "Smokies" frae Arbroath are best, any hot smoked white fish should work, maybe a clam or two if you can get them, any shellfish that are in season, cream and tatties, some parsley and ingins. Fry the ingins in butter till clear, not brown first.Its PFG as soup goes, I still prefer Radio Rental/ lentil soup though.

Read all about it in excessive detail here.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2012/jan/05/how-to-cook-perfect-cullen-skink.

The bike did very well today, it feels like it could sit at 60 mph for days, the seat and footrests are very comfortable , and apart from being cold I had a very stress free ride. At 65 mpg, the tank has an almost 200 mile range, it would tour well. i had a lot of time to think about the forks, springs are defo too stiff, handles well , but you feel all the road texture and I think they are topping out occasionally on really rough low speed bits.. That is the next job, softer springs.


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It's great timing. Finish the re build just as winter starts


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Ha Andy,"Laff, i nearly shat", the timing is poor, , I want to strip the forks and fit the softer springs, off the road for Winter and a bonnie up on the wheels, paint the hubs de -dent the rear rim and spokes, motor out for side stand welding, not looking forward to that.
Entropy is at work, the dip filament is blown, paint is falling off the tank. Not ready quite yet.
500 plus miles on the Odo , everything is settling well, clutch behaves, box is great, motor sounds keen, the valve gear still sounds like a cutlery drawer on top of an overloaded washing machine , but once running that fades, the small ends are now new and the old rattle from that has gone, hurray. Oil consumption minimal, no leaks or bits falling off yet, better not curse myself here.


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A copy of the letter I just sent to Wossname what bought BSA....

Dear Indian Motorcycle Holding Company Wallahs,

Congratulations on your purchase of the BSA dealio.

As an official Olde BSA Biker, I have some experience that I want to share.

I have drooled and stared and lusted after these bikes since I was a nipper, so let me just tell you that THE FIRST BSA you make is right here: make it JUST EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE!

Ok?

Got that?

No designers!!!...especially young ones!!!

ask me if you want more advice.

I promise I will drool and stare and lust after it, I can't promise I will buy a new one however...I will probably wait until it gets broken, frozen, rusted, abandoned after being converted to a chopper, dumped out behind the old washer and the pickup, it's owner doing 40 to life in the Big House, listening to Johnny Cash records and getting motorcycle tattoos.....

And then I will be maybe buying new (repro) parts, and singing your praises.

(And I will be really fking Olde.)

So get busy...

......and don't worry, we don't expect the tank to be perfect either.

In fact we kind of like it that way.

Thanks.

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Thank you for the vote of confidence Bodger. Starting with a clean sheet i would amend some details, maybe two centre main bearings,central Beryllium flywheel with NIB magnets and alternator, single over head cam, bigger oil pump and jet lubrication to the rockers and piston skirts. A con rod/ piston balancer / supercharger, hanging down centrally would be useful as well, at a push this could be used as an air compressor to blow up the tyres..Or use it as an oil pump, very large piston short stroke, counterbalancing the main pistons, smooth out the motor and pump more oil , win win.,, sober up Eisler! A stronger , smoother supercharged motor, mmmm.

Today was nut and bolt check time, the centre stand pivots needed greasing, the usual suspects were loose , the two rearmost engine plate bolts needed more than a full turn, you need to lift the chain guard to access the DS engine mount, not convenient. The front mount bolt , about a 1/2 turn, lower centre, still tight, still to get to the fiddly ones at the rear mount. of course almost every motor mount bolt is a different size from the others making multiple spanner socket combos necessary.
This all points to a distinct lack of joined up thinking on the factories part, or maybe they were trying deliberately to make the motor mounts as awkward as possible, if so they passed with flying colours, it must be an anti theft system.

more bedding in on the front brake, two more clicks on the micram adjusters, thats 3 in total for about 600 miles, the brake is now very powerful for a 2LS, I have yet to find it lacking, it is a little grabby however with a strong self servo effect, will chamfer the leading edges a bit to calm this down.

First roadside failure since the timing slipped, an HT coil cap came off, easy fix, never done that before that I recall.
Leaned off the pilot air screws an eighth of a turn each side, there was a fair bit of blubbering on the overrun and a bit of a stumble as the slides lifted, the leaner settings have helped here. 70 mpg here we come.
Air temp about 5 C, salt everywhere, snow forecast tomorrow.
Used thicker gloves today, the 3 season "Thinsulate" ones were as much use as a wet rag yesterday, retired them for the time being.

The bike feels light, compared to the Cagiva 650 Raptor, particularly when wheeling the BSA around it feels tiny (Raptor book weight 185 kg dry) it is like a whippet to the Cagiva labrador, i think the book weight of the BSA was around 400 lbs ( 181 kgs), No side stand , winkers, 6Kg off the barrels, a few more with the footrests, brake pedal, rearlight and rims in alloy, maybe 370 lbs (168 kg), must weigh it for curiosities sake.

Last edited by gavin eisler; 11/07/16 1:10 pm.

71 Devimead A65 750
56 Norbsa 68 Longstroke A65
Cagiva Raptor 650
MZ TS 250
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#673920 - 11/09/16 11:00 pm Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Sna... and dreich to miserable. jersey on,bike washed down with pink frothy stuff, drained the tank, clean fuel filters were a surprise, no paint, tank off and airing. The bike is now "ben the hoos", "in dahouse" for you colonials, MZ springs chopped to 400 mm, 27 mm spacers will give lowered ride height by 27mm and 22 lb/inch if all the sums are right, fork oil has a few tiny black bits in, nothing grievous.
Fitted a couple of neat 90 degree cable bend plastic ferrules over the choke cables at carb entries, covers the cable splits well. Shoddy fix.
i have been fantasizing about a copper claw/fork which would engage with the cylinder head fins and conduct heat to knee warmers mounted within foreleg guards, seems obvious to me.The claws would engage by wind pressure so as not to fry the knees when idling in traffic, purists could fit manual controls for extreme knee warming.
Photo bucket has gone weird again.its hard not to mention the election, good luck


71 Devimead A65 750
56 Norbsa 68 Longstroke A65
Cagiva Raptor 650
MZ TS 250
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#673927 - 11/10/16 12:18 am Re: alloy barrels + 5 speeds A65 750 OIF 1971 [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Happy Hibernation Gavin.......



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