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The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber #671603
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Any thoughts on this?
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/classics/bonneville-bobber/2017/bonneville-bobber

Personally, I'd like to see one fitted with a nacelle and old style mufflers and go the total retro route.

I like the way the throttle bodies are styled after the Monobloc carbs.


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671606
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...Im a designer (not motorcycles) and for me the bike does not have right proportions in the rear part. Looks wrong.
In this case HD have better designers.

Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671624
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Looks like crap, just like most bobbers in fact, probably handles like crap also.
However,I am biased since I do not "get" this choppper/bobber stuff.


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Peter R] #671647
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I'm with Peter, don't like it.

Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671648
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I kinda like it, but the rear wheel looks too small. I think it would look better with 19's front and back or with a 19 rear and a 21 up front.

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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671658
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Well, not for me.

But I'm surprised no one has commented on the engine design. Of course - it's all design on these things - there's no form follows function, just form follows trend.
What we call the timing cover and (new) points cover are now tilted level - not skewed forward as on previous New Triumphs. And the primary cover now copies the unit Meriden style.

The Bobber is not shown on the triumph USA site.


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671662
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I dig it!!! except for the briefcase on the front down tubes!! But I'm biased owning 2 Bobbers a 69 T-150 and a 83 GS-850. They have to stay up with HD-XL's, Scouts, and Yam Bolt

Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671695
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Many nice details including the Monobloc thinghies, the upright engine, and the exhaust pipes, much better then current replacement pipes for our older Tris, good eye...finally.

The first Triumph exhausts looked ridiculous, haha..but the kids are finally catching on to what really is cool after all.

But how about the Manly Mann Model rider with his Marlboro Manly Mann jacket and open face helmet..his beard is too dark.

And perhaps there should be some neck tatts as well, lizards and bugs crawling out of his shirt.

I just set mine on fire again, but my brother in law still has his ZZ Top beard intact and arm tatt sleeves and could model for an ad for this...call me, I'll hook you up.

Very nice, I'll take one.

Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671698
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Hmmm. I don't hate it.

Seems a little "busy" tho, not enough air space showing... Cluttered?
On one hand, good for Triumph, in keeping (ok not so) abreast of the trend. Honda did it first with their "custom" "chopper"... what was that like 5? 6? years ago now? BMW has gone retro with their R9T.
like 2, 3 years on now?

Way to be the last one on the bus, Gus.
Better late than never?


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: ricochetrider] #671704
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"unique drum brake" on rear...hahaha looks a lot like the conical one on my 72 T120 with holes....oh, "Ride by Wire" all my bikes have that it's called a throttle cable...marketing folks are a hoot wonder how many of them ever rode a 'real' classic bike?

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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671709
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I'm just a bit miffed that they have gone with the offset crank in the new engines, they don't sound like an old vertical twin, just another V twin clone.
I suppose it has a lot to do with balance but can't they put bigger balance shafts in them?

Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671714
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Found this image on line, the profile shot makes the rear wheel look ridiculously small, reminds me of the American Mustang Bikes. And it does look too crowded below the tank. Hey triumph, how bout a 2" stretch and 19 on the rear?

[img]http://image.newsdog.today/origin_94814e70dcb093a71eb3401fc0efaf9f[/img]



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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671717
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The hipster guys with their tiny brimmed hats and very tight jeans are going to love this bike.

I wouldn't walk across the street to look at one.

Talk about beating a dead horse. When will it ever end?

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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671736
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You do have to give the Hinkley boys credit. They have a very good machine for almost every part of the market, it's hard to go anywhere without seeing one. The brand name is out there and doing well.

Do I like this machine, not in the slightest. A custom machine that is mass produced is an oxymoron. It is going to appeal to the modern buying public though and that is probably all that matters.

Rod

Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: R Moulding] #671743
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Originally Posted By R Moulding

You do have to give the Hinkley boys credit. They have a very good machine for almost every part of the market, it's hard to go anywhere without seeing one. The brand name is out there and doing well.

Do I like this machine, not in the slightest. A custom machine that is mass produced is an oxymoron. It is going to appeal to the modern buying public though and that is probably all that matters.

Rod


Thanks.....you just said what I was going to say....but much more succinct.

Triumph seems to be hitting the right notes in a number of different market segments right now.


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: R Moulding] #671754
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Originally Posted By R Moulding

You do have to give the Hinkley boys credit. They have a very good machine for almost every part of the market, it's hard to go anywhere without seeing one. The brand name is out there and doing well.

Do I like this machine, not in the slightest. A custom machine that is mass produced is an oxymoron. It is going to appeal to the modern buying public though and that is probably all that matters.

Rod



Well stated. I'm still a fan of Triumph -even if I don't own or care to own any of their bikes- and don't begrudge them in any way. More power to them for selling bikes in today's world.


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671783
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This stinks:

"Rigid looks (but with a monoshock rear end taking all of the "hard" out of the "tail")."

Found it on the Sumps write up on the new Triumph Bobber.

Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671823
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what's the world coming to?

i just bought a harley, of all things.


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: kevin roberts] #671855
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Kevin on a Harley.... I appreciate style as art.... But the new Triumph bobber doesn't look right me...the proportions are all wrong as compared to a real Triumph rigid frame bike or even a 60's bike with a bolt on hard tail..My opinion doesn't mean much to the swarms that will likely buy it....

To me this new Moto Guzzi Bobber model looks better than the Triumph and is an excellent representation of a swingarm bobber with good porportions...



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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671869
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Well, to each his own of course! IMHO, the Guzzi fork looks like it is waiting to break off at the 1st bump with that monster front wheel assembly! Yes, it looks Flat track, Harley 48, ........ I guess.
I'd actually own that new Triumph, but have never owned a new bike yet. I'll have to wait for someone to default on their loan! That will happen after they buy all the stuff offered afterwards to "make it right" ! Hah !

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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671874
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Apart from the silly wheels and tires, that Moto Guzzi does not look bad at all. Just my 2c


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671937
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for comparison, there is this Authentic Triumph bobber at $4500

going once, going twi....(clank) oops!

rust never sleeps

http://slo.craigslist.org/mcy/5825187048.html


Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Bodger] #671968
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I built this bike for another guy about 5 years ago and I do ride it once once in awhile...It's constructed from a pile of mismatched parts but runs and rides well.If you are an attention whore this bike does get attention..But smoothness is not one of it's strong points..Parked next to the modern "bobber", this lump looks tiny in comparison..I'm sure the new Bobber has decent handling and ride and in general performs just like a modern bike..Just like a smaller Harley... grin



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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: Tasman] #671977
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I probably wouldn't ride either one, but if I wanted one to sit and stare at, I'd go for the Hillbilly bobber over the Hinckley one in a heartbeat! It looks like the real deal.

O.K., O.K., I would ride it!


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Re: The new Triumph Bonneville Bobber [Re: TR6Ray] #672011
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This one was more of a rider...55 A10 I built from swap meet parts and sold about 10 years ago. This is more like the Brit bobbers I remember from the 60-70's..I don't remember see any original rigid frame Brit bikes back then...And the bolt on hardtail bikes were always long front end choppers...



Back in the 70's I rode this bobbed 67 650 for many years..

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