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#665537 - 08/28/16 5:22 pm A65 Rearsets  
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Has anyone tried these on an oif A65?

http://www.clubmanracing.com/rearsets.php


1971 BSA A65 Lightning "Bitsa"
1966 BSA A65 "Beezuki" with GT550 two-stroke engine
1974 Triumph T150 830cc
1975 Suzuki GT550
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#665576 - 08/29/16 5:35 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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I had some old Dunstall style rear sets that the link is similar to.
I didnt use the gear side just reversed the lever, I tried it but didnt like it, slop in the clevis joints gives a poor feel to the change.
The brake side worked fine, the only real hassle is getting the brake switch to work , I made a small steel strike plate which I mounted to the lever. The stop for the brake pedal is a bit chintsy, mine used an angled plate which was sandwiched between the footrest and the frame and all had to be nipped up with loctite RFT to stop this turning.
I now use "barleycorn" rear sets, better quality , and more options for angle and foot rests.

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56 Norbsa 68 Longstroke A65
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#665638 - 08/29/16 4:18 pm Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: gavin eisler]  
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I had a look at the Barleycorn ones, and even with their poor pictures, they look to be of good quality. I just think that they look a bit modern, or am I wrong?


1971 BSA A65 Lightning "Bitsa"
1966 BSA A65 "Beezuki" with GT550 two-stroke engine
1974 Triumph T150 830cc
1975 Suzuki GT550
1975 Laverda 1000 3C
1986 Yamaha SRX 600
#665658 - 08/29/16 6:52 pm Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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Maybe, they are copies of an italian design from the 60s I believe. The steel type are certainly robust, probably more crashtastic than the barleycorns. Speak to barleycorn, they are very accommodating to your needs, i got my brake pedal minus holes because it needed bending to clear the exhaust, British made as well.the adjustability is very useful for getting comfortable angles.

the easiest way to mount rearsets to an OIF A65 is to drill a 3/8th hole in the frame plate just above the existing mount holes, for me this is not ideal, I moved mine back another 2" this involved fairly structural welding.

This pic shows a temporary mount using the existing mount holes , two spacers and an alloy plate, if you use 5/16 alloy or heavier it could be less temporary, the one in the pic was only 1/4 and bent too readily.


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#665992 - 08/31/16 7:56 pm Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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Early eighties, Foot rest in hole above stock mounts, shortened / cranked gear lever.
Too close to gear lever but easy. The pipes looked good but strangled the bike, aesthetically I like this pic, but the filter sooked up water and the goldie can was overstuffed.


crap pattern front mudguard, replaced with original which has no vertical stay and allows you to crush down the gap


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#666063 - 09/01/16 7:20 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: gavin eisler]  
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So Gavin, the siamese if you please sure look rights, was it the muffler too packed that strangled, did you unstuff it?..was it a pattern that was not internally like the Goldie muffler?

Nice picture, great you saved it!

#666073 - 09/01/16 8:46 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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I had issues with the Siamese pipe, over 5K the LHS wouldnt stay in the port, the pattern goldie silencer was over baffled, changed this to the stock set up with balance pipe and never looked back, the one good thing about a 2 into 1 is it solves the brake pedal clearance issues.
I did very few miles with this set up, it was gutless.
With a tight LHS exhaust port it might work, good for sidecar passengers , less noisy.


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#666080 - 09/01/16 9:19 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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Looks very much like a pre unit Siamese, I found the A65 type Siamese to work well, better still if your lucky to get your hands on an original factory one. The two pipes mate together over a larger area than the pattern ones silencers are a problem too.

I like to tune the bike on two seperate exhausts and then switch to the Siamese setup. That way I can tune each side independently.

I found the aftermarket clubmans silencer from Wassel to be "ok", but it left one hell of a flat spot in the mid-range, it was also very noisy.
To try and keep the neighbours happy, and keep the noise down. I bolted a smaller tube inside it. It made a cracking job of reducing the noise and gave a bonus of thickening up the mid-range. I altered the exhaust to have a smaller outlet overall but ruined what I had already gained. And whilst it gave the bike a lot of bottom end torque it had Infact then caused enough back pressure for it to start running from clean to rich when touring.

I never liked the goldie silencer on anything but a goldie, I did buy a pair of old dunstalls silencers, but they need a lot of refurbishment before I fit them.


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#666100 - 09/01/16 12:01 pm Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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Armours supplied me with a stainless Siamese system for my A50D,and they were great, fitted perfect and don't corrode at the join, inevitable in the end with standard chrome. I still have them ready for when I get angry hehe.


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#666187 - 09/02/16 7:26 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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Armours Chrome is excellent, its just that short section of pipe that sticks out past the bike way too far.


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#666283 - 09/03/16 7:50 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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Found these, might help someone.


These worked but were a bit flimsy, thicker plate would be better, I have now gone for a more permanent set up, same position but now direct to frame tubes. These are a good idea to try out first though, leave more space around the peg mount for alternative positions and they can be fine tuned to suit, mine started further back but ended up where they are in the pics after a couple of trials, I am 5 ten with a 32 " leg, YMMV.

I used 3/8" SS SHC screws with Nyloc nutds , alloy round bar spacers trimmed on a lathe to suit, the trickiest bit is getting the rear brake pedal angle and offset to clear cases and exhaust pipe. The more permanent set up has a more cranked lever and sits tighter in to the frame.

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#666286 - 09/03/16 8:45 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Thanks again Gavin. You are obviously a man of sophisticated auto engineering, is that a Lada I see behind the bike?


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1966 BSA A65 "Beezuki" with GT550 two-stroke engine
1974 Triumph T150 830cc
1975 Suzuki GT550
1975 Laverda 1000 3C
1986 Yamaha SRX 600
#666291 - 09/03/16 9:18 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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That was Bob Longmuirs ( he once offered to "sharpen" my carb needles for me, I politely declined) Lada, I had a Hillman Hunter at the time, its best feature was the oven/ glove compartment, good for heating up pies.

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#697411 - 06/04/17 8:56 pm Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Gavin,

"These worked but were a bit flimsy, thicker plate would be better, I have now gone for a more permanent set up, same position but now direct to frame tubes".

How have you done this please?


1971 BSA A65 Lightning "Bitsa"
1966 BSA A65 "Beezuki" with GT550 two-stroke engine
1974 Triumph T150 830cc
1975 Suzuki GT550
1975 Laverda 1000 3C
1986 Yamaha SRX 600
#697413 - 06/04/17 9:38 pm Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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While the bike was stripped I took the frame to the local smiddy, told them what I wanted, , they drilled the frame tube ,sleeved it and fitted a flat plate for the peg to butt up to , so the pegs now bolt through the frame tube, has worked very well.


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#697522 - 06/05/17 7:56 pm Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Any chance of a couple of pictures please? I'd like to see what it looks like, and what you did with the brake light.


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1966 BSA A65 "Beezuki" with GT550 two-stroke engine
1974 Triumph T150 830cc
1975 Suzuki GT550
1975 Laverda 1000 3C
1986 Yamaha SRX 600
#697585 - 06/06/17 10:08 am Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: Peter Gascoigne]  
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look on the build thread members project page, alloy barrels and 5 speeds.
[Linked Image]

The trickiest bit was making the brake switch mount.
[Linked Image]

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#697643 - 06/06/17 9:05 pm Re: A65 Rearsets [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Gavin,

Thank you for that. Not the easiest thing to do, but very neat and strong. Looks like it should be there. I might put a gusset in the front lower corner of the rear foot rest hanger.


1971 BSA A65 Lightning "Bitsa"
1966 BSA A65 "Beezuki" with GT550 two-stroke engine
1974 Triumph T150 830cc
1975 Suzuki GT550
1975 Laverda 1000 3C
1986 Yamaha SRX 600
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off topic again but that book on the floor in the photo above near the top looks like it might be cool


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