I bought this 1967 Greeves Challenger at Mid Ohio this year. The bike runs well. I believe it is original paint on the tank. Forks, air box, wheels, tires, frame, seat, all looks original. From pictures on the web it looks like something was done to the pipe. If there are any Greeves people on the site can you take a look at what I bought and tell me if there are things I need to change. Like fenders, number pates, gas cap, exhaust, etc..
I think it is a low miles original but I am not a Greeves owner until now. I just thought it looked good and it was British is why I bought it.
Here's a quick check of some of your questions and a bit more data.
Gas cap - stock aluminum 'monza' cap. Front fender/brace - stock Color (colour) - appears correct. Seat base should match Forks - original Cerianis w/ Timken tapered roller bearings Rear shocks - Girlings. Tires - Dunlop or Avon.
While the road race 2 strokes were leading the development of expansion chambers way back in the 50's, Scramblers and other 2 stroke applications weren't. It wasn't until the QUB model that Greeves had a 'tuned' pipe on their bikes, courtesy of Dr. Gordon Blair and Queen's University Belfast (QUB).
The transmission is a solid shifter and not as weak as those found on the 1965 MX1. If you decide to race it 'in anger' you should be able to give the other early 'Classic' bikes a run for their money.
Don't forget to order a Tee Shirt. Very few Greeves owners end up owning just one!
As far as the pipe goes, you can spend some $$$ and get a more modern example made, but most vintage rules limit the design of the pipe to the era. Back when I was racing my poor old Hawkstone against C15s and Ducs, a fellow competitor came over to give my Greeves a closer look. He suggested I replace the 'Blooey' pipe (just the front megaphone - no reverse cone and stinger - and REAL loud) with a more modern chamber. I casually replied that if I wanted an Elsinore, I'd buy an Elsinore! His C15 was a trick as they got, but a virtually stock 1960 Greeves Hawkstone waxed his butt, in the mud.
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Thank you for the feedback.
I will order the decals today. That might be the least I have ever had to do for one of my British bikes.
MX/Scramble rules usually require non rubber 'pegs'. Flattrack/TT/dirtrack rules usually require rubber covered pegs.
Early Greeves scrambler pegs (Hawkstone) were solid bar stock with 'zits' welded on. Talk about slick and dangerous! When Greeves moved to folding pegs, they fabricated them from flat stock and then welded 'zits' on the flat bits. Oddly enough, they don't work that well in the wet.
Current MX/Trials pegs are more aggressive and are self cleaning since they are usually an open 'U' or something like that.
Many Greeves were used in Desert racing and they were perfect for that. They also dominated Eastern Enduros back in the 60's.
One even doubled as a Harley with Mert Lawwill riding it in On Any Sunday.
Great looking bike, looks like everything's as it should be. I had an MX3 Challenger and it was a fun bike. I've got pretty good quality pdf's of the service manual, parts and engine booklets if you're interested.