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WTB ARD/Hunt-mag belt-drive case #626033
11/17/15 10:19 am
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Hi all,

I'm looking for the belt-driven ARD/Joe Hunt mag mount case the Flat-track racers used. The one that puts the mag in front of the barrels (out of harms way)

I don't mind what the condition is, it can be sorted out easily.

I know Britcycle sell them already mounted to a Timing case, but the price is way too much for my pocket atm.

Any info regarding one of these, or any known alternative, would be most appreciated.

Many Thanks.

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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #626053
11/17/15 1:45 pm
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hey bud

the original ARD mags used a fairbanks-morse magneto, and the timing cover/belt drive casting was a one-piece unit. the unit from britcycle is a replica using an australian-made timing cover/belt drive casting and a modern joe hunt magneto.

joe hunt and morris both make mags that bolt to triumphs, either in place of the contact breaker assembly or off the tach drive at the other end of the cam. either one of these will run you US$900 bucks or so.

the genuine ARDs go on eBay or vintage flattracker sites like http://vft.org/vftforsale2TWO.html -- usually for no less than US$1300. the inner electrics and ball bearings might be junk, but they can be rebuilt completely for another US$400. if you watch eBay you sometimes see them on sale for a bit less.



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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #626061
11/17/15 2:44 pm
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Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the response.

Yh I have experience with Hunt mags. Had one on my 500 Daytona and have one on my T140D atm that I wish to relocate. I've looked (longingly) into the various mounting options for some years now, Timing side/Primary side and through an adapted starter motor timing cover, it would be nice to get it out of the way. (I've wrecked one in the past thanks to a combination of rain/diesel/dick in a range-rover)

Useful to know the castings come from Aus. I don't suppose you know the name of the manufacturer? It's only the drive casting I really need tbh. I have drawn up plans to make one (cast & Welded), but I'll still keep looking in the meantime, you never know when one will pop up wink

And thank you for the link to the tracker parts, most useful.

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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #626133
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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #626709
11/21/15 8:28 pm
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http://www.eBay.com/itm/TRIUMPH-ARD-MAGNETO-/181933402160?hash=item2a5c136830gAoEAAOSw14xWP-sx&vxp=mtr


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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #628350
12/01/15 10:03 pm
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I'm still looking.

Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #628358
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here's one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIUMPH-ARD-MAGN...-sx&vxp=mtr



it's on eBay right now, four days to go, at just over US$1100.

all the parts are there, less one cover screw, and he says, "it sparks."

they all say that, even if it doesn't.

if you can buy this for less than US$1300, it's a good deal. you won't find them for less.

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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: kevin roberts] #628394
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I sold one back in 1995 that came off a good running 1969 650 for the pricely sum of $150 and a stock timing cover to take its place. At the time I thought I did well. I'm glad I don't HAVE the desire to have one or I'd be in trouble !


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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: kevin roberts] #628398
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Lytedrive Engineering in Australia

http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showprofile&User=4868



Originally Posted By kevin
the unit from britcycle is a replica using an australian-made timing cover/belt drive casting and a modern joe hunt magneto.




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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #628531
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I think ol' lytedrive flew the coop. I recall chris bernardi had him make an aoli tank that came out decent, and LD was supplying people with belt drives and all kinds of stuff. but I also seem to recollect some negatives and the guy wasn't heard from again. now this goes back several years and my memory is funky. but I know there was an issue of some sort.

Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: hacksaw] #628562
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He was last on The Jockey Journal on June 24, 2015....so apparently still around although it says he has been banned from posting there.


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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Jon W. Whitley] #628690
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oh I see! yeah there was a time some years ago that anyone selling thing on the board that could be construed a bizz was given the boot. a ran afoul of the new rules myself because I had a web site listed in my signature here.

I was banned from jj until new ownership took it over. I don't remember my log in stuff but I may go check on lyte drive sometime myself.

Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #628694
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So like, isn't it a badge of courage to be banned from JJ?


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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #629080
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Thanks for the responses.

Kevin, $1100 is way too much, as I don't need another magneto, as I said, I have a mag already that I wish to relocate and am only looking for the belt-drive case (and it's contents if possible)

And Jon, I have been looking for contact details for Lytedrive (John Scerri) but have yet to come up with any, net searches are bringing up lots of forum posts about him but no business contact details or website for lytedrive frown

there must be a number of used ones out there, I'm regularly checking a few U.S. dirt-track website classifieds/forums but nothing yet.

perseverance will prevail...

Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #629148
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you bet, x.

watch out though.

currently theres a scammer calling himself carquest auto parts working both the classifieds at vft and this forum. he claims to have ARD parts for sale


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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: kevin roberts] #629187
12/07/15 3:37 pm
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How is this scammer working this forum?

BTW, Carquest is a very large national auto parts chain... ?

Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Steve Erickson] #629237
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his email address reads "carguest" if you look closely.

I advertized in the vintage flat track classifieds for an oval cover for the belt compartment on my ARD. he said he had one, and sent me copies of my own pictures of *mine*

to my knowledge those pictures have appeared online only on britbike.


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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #629242
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OK, he isn't necessarily working this forum... probably any Google search for ARD belt cover would turn those pictures up in the "images". It does sound like he's zeroed in on VFT wanteds.

But Geez... Sending you your own pictures!

Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Steve Erickson] #629260
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i admit i was amused. but they were very good pictures.

and you're right, a google search turns them up. but the link is to here, so even if he picked up the image off google the information was accessed here, and he might be looking around.


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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #631257
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I'm still on a 'Hunt' for this. wink

Re: WTB ARD/Hunt mag belt drive [Re: Mr_X] #631382
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Hiya Mr X
Would you consider something like this ?

http://www.jrceng.com/gallery/magneto-conversion-for-Triumph


HTH
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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt-mag belt-drive case [Re: Mr_X] #634228
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Re: WTB ARD/Hunt-mag belt-drive case [Re: Mr_X] #655598
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Thanks to all who contributed assistance. Happy to say I now have a Mag belt-drive case. Still have pulleys & belt to get but they are they easy bits, local firm who can supply is about 100 metres away smile


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