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Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin #648795
04/15/16 8:01 pm
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Hi All,

Has any body experimented with one of these on a big twin?

https://www.mikesxs.net/parts/yamaha-xs650-reed-type-engine-breather-valve-pcv

Yam seem to think it worth while.

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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #648817
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Very common on Commandos, works very well as the reed valve stays responsive at higher revs which is the problem with non return valves with ball bearings etc. To get one cheaper and in different configuration put EGR valve into eBay, used on modern small bike engines for emission improvement. I go for the 180 degree ones as its easier to fit.

Last edited by kommando; 04/17/16 10:59 am. Reason: EGR not ERG
Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #648873
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I have one on my Bonnie, I believe it works well. I had a small leak on the primary side that I've never been able to cure. It only leaks when the engine is hot. I've come to believe it is a very fine crack or porosity. Installing the crank valve seems to have cured it.


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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #648932
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I have one on my A65. The breathing is modified to work like a later Triumph twin. I mounted the valve in the front of the air box (OIF.) It works well.


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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #648955
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About the best mod you can make on a Series 2 RE Interceptor. It never really leaked after the rebuild but with the reed valve breather I didn't even get that oily mist around the sump plug.
It would work just as well on a Series 1A since it has that big crank case breather hose too.
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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #648958
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Quote:
I mounted the valve in the front of the air box (OIF.)

DavidP, where does the air delivery from the engine to your reed valve come from?


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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Ger B] #648982
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Originally Posted By Ger B
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I mounted the valve in the front of the air box (OIF.)

DavidP, where does the air delivery from the engine to your reed valve come from?

From the front of the primary case.

Most of these which I've seen exit from the top of the case, but this is where PO put it.
Works a lot better since I removed the crank seal. grin


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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #648983
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Thank you David.


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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: kommando] #649146
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Originally Posted By kommando
Very common on Commandos, works very well as the reed valve stays responsive at higher revs which is the problem with non return valves with ball bearings etc. To get one cheaper and in different configuration put EGR valve into ebay, used on modern small bike engines for emission improvement. I go for the 180 degree ones as its easier to fit.


I've had a look on eBay but can only find the actual reeds, not the whole valve. Have you a particular bike and model to recommend.

Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #649152
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Have 2 of these 180 degree ones

http://www.eBay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-YZF-R-125-R125-2008-2014-EGR-EXHAUST-AIR-VALVE-/171540935709?hash=item27f0a2f41dgFZUAAOSwuMFUZH8T

Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #649727
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The reeds work much, much better than the older spring loaded plunger type. Several cars use the same reed design in their PCV valves, which can be had in black plastic at Walmart in the $5 range.


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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: Steven A] #649748
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..bought a couple of these on fleabay for under 6 each but haven't tried them yet.Cheers!(item 162027503800)


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Re: Try the XS650 PCV valve on a Brit twin [Re: 6T] #649880
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Added one to my T140-seems to work but it was a mod from the start when i rebuilt the motor. Clutch cover doesn't leak with a thick gasket. Heads are decent but mist a little.


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