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#634999 - 01/13/16 5:58 pm Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T?  
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Has anyone fitted a oil filter to a TR5T? As I'm about to change the oil it would be an ideal time to do the install?
I've thought about using this one http://www.dcclassicmotorcycles.co.uk/parts/oil_filtration/oil_filtration.htm
Or if I can find a suitable place maybe the remote filter?
http://www.eBay.co.uk/itm/Remote-oil-filter-kit-suits-classic-BSA-Triumph-Motorcycles-/391344255335?hash=item5b1def7167gE84AAOSwy4hUSnOg

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#635026 - 01/13/16 9:02 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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That looks like a neat little filter. Seems small to do much good- would need to be changed frequently. Guess it depends how much you ride it. If it's ridden regularly the Norton kit works well- I have one on my T140. Also MAP sells a long thin filter.
http://www.mapcycle.com/categories/engine/oil-filter-kits/oilfilter-kit-pre-oil-in-frame-univer.html

#635051 - 01/13/16 11:11 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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+1 for the MAP type filter.
It takes the standard Trident oil filter so especially useful if you also run a triple.
HTH

#635068 - 01/14/16 5:38 am Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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I bought a Hi-Dee Hi filter on eBay from an abandoned project (new)

Personally I'd use something that uses T160 filters as they are more common.

Andy Gregory/Tricor sells a similar (same?) unit
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/379428337334887074/

#635073 - 01/14/16 6:27 am Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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Hi,

I have the "pre OIF" version of the Andy Gregory/Tri-Cor England oil filter on my T100, mounted almost exactly as shown in the picture - to the front frame rear vertical tube, just in front of the battery carrier and normally hidden behind the sidepanel. bigt Similar to "Tridentman", I picked it because it uses standard triple (no difference between the models) filter elements, although it isn't the same as the MAP one; Andy's came with all necessary parts, including that nice polished ally clamp, and was easy to fit.

I appreciate that the TR5T uses a different frame, so Andy's "OIF type" might be more suitable for your bike?

Alternatively, Dave Madigan ("DMadigan" on here) makes a very neat filter mounting that takes a Honda element. He does have a website but it's a bu99er to find from Google because it's overwhelmed by a similarly-named website and is somewhere well-down the rankings. frown Try sending him a pm through BritBike for his website address and/or details of the filter?

Hth.

Regards,

#635274 - 01/15/16 3:11 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Stuart]  
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When i built mine I could not find a air filter rubber so I used a K&N filter leaving me a load of room in there so this is what I did.

#635290 - 01/15/16 4:49 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: malla1962]  
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Thanks for that Malla that's the area I thought of using on mine, I need to study where the oil pipes are & where they need to be diverted to then decide which filter to get but the type you have is one I was thinking of.


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#635296 - 01/15/16 5:16 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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Morgo do a posh one where I think the ins and outs can be changed ?
Expensive though

#635474 - 01/16/16 9:37 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: ]  
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The Morgo filter does look nice but as a true Lancashire lad I couldn't bring myself to buy anything produced in the Republic of Yorkshire, its just no done!!!


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#636174 - 01/21/16 9:34 am Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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I contacted Andy Gregory about fitting his OIF filter kit, but he says it won't fit but to use his RS09 kit which is for the pre OIF bikes??
Now I'm totally confused!!!


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#636193 - 01/21/16 11:55 am Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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Hi,

Originally Posted By Lancashirelad
I contacted Andy Gregory about fitting his OIF filter kit, but he says it won't fit but to use his RS09 kit which is for the pre OIF bikes??
Now I'm totally confused!!!

I wouldn't set great store by the "OIF" and "pre OIF" labels; bear in mind that "OIF" really applies to the '71-on 650 and 750 twins, your bike is completely different.

The only difference I can see is the OIF has the filter inlet on the side at the bottom (furtherest from the polished cap) whereas the pre OIF has the filter inlet in the end; fwiw, this directly matches the triple filter element.

Decide where you're going to mount it on your bike, then select the one that best matches?

Hth.

Regards,

#636203 - 01/21/16 1:05 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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Lancashirelad, regarding the inline DC Classic filter; I would bet that the filter element is the same as is used in many BMWs. The BMW filter is TWO filters joined with a bit of plastic - just slit the plastic and you should have two elements for the price of one.
I have a very rare filter that uses the "BMW" filter - I can buy the two filters for about $5.00 or less. ($5 = L3.53 or L1.75 each).

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#637580 - 01/29/16 3:40 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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Now I've rectified the battery problems on the wife's MG TF I can return to the TR5T & the oil filter fitting. Which is the best oil pipe I've looked at the usual suppliers & there appears to be so many types & prices its a bit confusing to us rookies!!


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#637585 - 01/29/16 4:37 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Stuart]  
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Originally Posted By Stuart
Hi,

Originally Posted By Lancashirelad
I contacted Andy Gregory about fitting his OIF filter kit, but he says it won't fit but to use his RS09 kit which is for the pre OIF bikes??
Now I'm totally confused!!!

I wouldn't set great store by the "OIF" and "pre OIF" labels; bear in mind that "OIF" really applies to the '71-on 650 and 750 twins, your bike is completely different.

The only difference I can see is the OIF has the filter inlet on the side at the bottom (furtherest from the polished cap) whereas the pre OIF has the filter inlet in the end; fwiw, this directly matches the triple filter element.

Decide where you're going to mount it on your bike, then select the one that best matches?

Hth.

Regards,



#637606 - 01/29/16 7:55 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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Send a pm to 'dommie90' he has a filter on his tr5t



#637611 - 01/29/16 8:13 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: NickL]  
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MAP cycle sells this filter that looks very much like this one shown above.Takes a Trident element... I bought one in the 1990's and used it on a 53 650 for many years.Now I prefer to use far less expensive options using known filter names...







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#637625 - 01/29/16 9:41 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Hillbilly bike]  
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i had an MAP for many years. took it off for some reason and couldn't find it the other day when i wanted to put it back on.

lots of people use ordinary remote filter mounts and fit a standard auto filter. speed shops and lawnmower people sell them. i bought one and mounted it to a 1964 T120 frame using a 2-inch muffler clamp.







takes an inexpensive car filter, tiny thing. that's a podtronics next to it for size:



clamps to the downtube under the swing arm and tucks up almost completely out of sight, but easily accessible for draining. it will also fit above the swingarm in front, using this same clamp:



would have used a wix if i'd thought of it. i just reached up and opened boxes at the parts store looking for the smallest filter.


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#637684 - 01/30/16 11:09 am Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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A lot of what you can get in the US isn't available in the UK I'm afraid I cannot find a MAP filter supplier here so although its a very tidy filter its a no go due to cost of importing one, if I get the Andy Gregory pre OIF one I'd prefer to see PICS OF it fitted to a TR5T first its no good reinventing the wheel if its been done before. The type used by Malla is favourite at the moment once I know the spec for the oil pipe??


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#637690 - 01/30/16 12:04 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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IMHO the "blob" type filter units (large diameter cylindrical canister filter units) do not fit aesthetically with a bike --which is usually for us classic bike guys a collection of long thin tubes.
Apart from the commonality with the Trident filter units I think the "MAP" type filter unit fits in better with the looks of a classic bike.
At first glance it can almost look like a tire inflator clipped to the bike frame.
So, Lancs Lad--that would be my approach. From earlier posts it seems that this type of unit is available in UK (see Anglobikes and Stuarts posts) so you should be good to go.
IMHO--don't be too pedantic and want to see an existing install photo before you take the plunge.
Fitting a filter is a good idea--order the filter and then when you have it in hand offer it up to the bike in various places--you will soon find a suitable location.
In fact I am intending to fit one to mine.
I have just been down into my shop and offered up one of the "MAP" type units on one of my TR5Ts.
Looks as if it will clamp nicely to the frame tube just behind the side cover on the drive side.
If you can't get one of the "MAP" type units in UK then there are plenty of guys on this forum who live in US who would get it for you and mail it across to UK--me for example.
HTH

#637692 - 01/30/16 12:15 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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Hi,

Originally Posted By Lancashirelad
A lot of what you can get in the US isn't available in the UK I'm afraid I cannot find a MAP filter supplier here so although its a very tidy filter its a no go due to cost of importing one,

confused "Hillbilly bike" has pictured the MAP filter; no offence intended to MAP but why would you import that rather than use one of Andy Gregory's?

Regards,

#637711 - 01/30/16 1:53 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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This is pinched off the net, but is a hi de hi filter kit.
My eBay one is in the house so I can tell you that the black part is 6 1/2 inches end to end hi de hi filter

He advertises in bike mags and lives in Hampshire

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Hi,

Originally Posted By AngloBike
hi de hi filter

How much does he sell 'em for?

Regards,

#637722 - 01/30/16 2:52 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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Hide-de-Hi Classic Bike Oil Filters
Meadow Villa Green Lane Hambledon Hampshire PO7 4SY
Contact: Bob Light 023 9263 2835 blightb6aol.com
Category: oil filters / coolers / oils & lubricants


I don't remember the cost
My filter was bought unused off eBay for about 30
I can't find an advert in classic bike at the moment - maybe he doesn't advertise every month ? Or maybe retired but if so I would imagine that he'd sell the idea on to somebody like Andy

eDDIT
I saw a price online at about 50

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#637832 - 01/31/16 11:18 am Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: AngloBike]  
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If I fit the "blob" type filter or a Hide di hi or Tricor one it would go under the l/h panel out of sight I wouldn't be happy with it on show, I can't really see that there would be much difference between the MAP/Tricor one & the DC Classics one, Dave at DC has plenty of experience building Triumphs & I know him very well so I suppose I should take a run over & look at his, whilst searching the web several people have recommended his filter. With reference to the pipe any rubber 5/16" oil pipe from eBay should be ok I suppose?
If there a downside to the internet it gives you to many alternative products & views on them!!
Thanks for the input upto now guys.


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#638064 - 02/01/16 5:01 pm Re: Fitting an oil filter to a TR5T? [Re: Lancashirelad]  
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I didn't notice that there was a Hide Di Hi with 2 filters for sale on eBay so after a last minute bid its paid for & hopefully will be here soon. Then I'll need to work out where/how to fit it.


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