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#603738 - 06/09/15 1:19 pm Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper  
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Hi Guys

Got the battery on charge as there was no spark and battery was dead.
Had the bike for a while now and have someone who wants to buy as long as I can get it started.
Does it need the full 12 - 14 volts ?
Is it a negative earth ? as there's a fuse on the neg wire.
On the ignition switch is it on click to the right as it's a bit faded.

Thanks for any help

Tom

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#603804 - 06/09/15 6:47 pm Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: obzolete]  
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Unless its very recent, it would be 6v electrics. (?)
And unless its an oddball, or converted, it should be +ve positive earth. (?)

It sounds like its not really ready to be started.

#603906 - 06/10/15 10:35 am Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: obzolete]  
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It's 1954 and it's on 12v

#603962 - 06/10/15 6:05 pm Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: obzolete]  
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Strange I have a Continental GT 1966 and it is 6V + earth as Rohan said.
If you have sparks it should start, floater the carb. kick start the bike and after switch the ignition on and kick it again, that's the procedure to fire them up. If not than you have another problem to invest.

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John

#604015 - 06/11/15 4:35 am Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: obzolete]  
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If it is 12v now then it has been converted at some point, the points faces will have some corrosion so give the points a rub and also the pilot circuit of the carb which is easily bunged up.

#622476 - 10/20/15 1:07 pm Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: kommando]  
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I have just finished restoring a 1959 250 Clipper, and it is 6v Pos ground. Is your not perhaps a 350, or has been modified to 12v?


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#622484 - 10/20/15 2:42 pm Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: obzolete]  
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1954 could be originally negative earth.

Enfield's models and charging systems and ignitions were so random that photos of the bike would help. Photos of the battery and ign switch too.


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#622538 - 10/20/15 8:53 pm Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: triton thrasher]  
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Found this on the interweb , you tell me if it helps , 1957 I think

#625995 - 11/16/15 9:20 pm Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: obzolete]  
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OK I got my fire arrow to start, it took a lot of kicking to get it to go I ran it for a couple of minutes and shut it down then I tried to restart it and it took a lot of kicking and did not start again ( It fired multiple times ) then I gave up .. for now... I do not have a users manual , and I am wondering what is the starting procedure for the fire arrow (clipper) ? I do not know how to use the air control lever , is their a trick to use to start these ??? Thanks for the tips ,, smile

#626025 - 11/17/15 9:33 am Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: obzolete]  
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I'm confused. Are we talking about two different models here? The 1954 Clipper has an iron head pre unit engine and Kip's Fire Arrow is a unit construction alloy 250 budget version of the Continental/Crusader. ... No?
Two completely different animals, though both would originally be 6V - positive earth.
Lots of talk about unit 250s here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Crusader_technical_group/info
The early pre units have a smaller yahoo group at:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/royalenfield/info?referrer=Ajsmatchless
Here is a PDF down load of a book on the early pre unit bikes that should include the 1954 Clipper.
http://download2008.mediafire.com/c4arj94t89sg/xmle99amw40ohva/book+of+the+royal+enfield.pdf

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#626039 - 11/17/15 10:57 am Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: Don Leaming]  
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Thank you so much for the quick response Don, like I said I'm a newbie here and now I'm not sure what year my bike is ?? but the link you provided to me here with the manual is exactly what I needed, it has much more information than the manual I have does and makes more sense to me on my Lucas ignition, now I will go try to get the timing a little more refined so maybe it will start a little easier , then I have to figure out the starting procedure (what works best ) .. THANK YOU .. smile

Last edited by kip; 11/19/15 12:09 am.
#626279 - 11/19/15 12:30 am Re: Starting a Royal Enfield 250 Clipper [Re: kip]  
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YA HOOO .. my first ride today here in Minnesota sleet ,rain, a little snow and me and my FIRE ARROW down the road on our maiden voyage , IT was GREAT !!!!!!!! a couple of bumps on the float tickler , air lever on, a little throttle ignition off a kick or two , the turn the key on , air lever off , a little throttle , bring the foot kick pedal up in the compression stroke , give it a good steady kick and it comes to life as it should !!!!!!! now for a little refining , and some other tinkering , and I will be motoring , I'm sure I'll be back for more info as I go along ... THANKS for the info your manual download was the ticket , I am sure glad I found this forum you guys r the BEST... (now if I can figure how to down load a picture here) !!! :):)



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