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Pre unit T100 valve Timing #620591
10/05/15 10:36 am
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Hi,

Just got this motor with the intention of using it for classic motocross. I got it from the guy who got it from the guy that built it so no guarantees here but it is supposedly in good condition and ready to run. I understand it could have been used, or at least set up to use in competition. Everything is very clean, piston top, valves and whatever else I can through the various orifices and most of the gaskets look new.

Now to my (first) question. On taking the timing cover off I am confronted with loads of marks on the pinions. Would these have been used by someone to set the valve timing? I'm afraid I'm clueless as far as this subject is concerned but I would like to learn.

Hopefully someone with more knowledge than me can help.

Thanks, Keith.


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Re: Pre unit T100 valve Timing [Re: Keith] #620614
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Don't remove the idler pinion, or let it fall out.

Unless you want to reset the timing on unknown cams, with a degree wheel.


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Re: Pre unit T100 valve Timing [Re: Keith] #620627
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Jeez, the guy should have at least used different colors for the inlet vs. exhaust. I don't see how you will ever know which timing marks to use.

You could laboriously turn over the motor one rev at a time until everything lines up just right, but it could take around 90 revs to do it. And if the idler falls out, it's back to square one.

Cheers,

Bill


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Re: Pre unit T100 valve Timing [Re: HawaiianTiger] #620921
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So what do you reckon, stick it in the frame, fit a carb and mag and see what happens.

Keith.

Re: Pre unit T100 valve Timing [Re: Keith] #620926
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I would check what the cam duration and timing is.

That doesn't mean you have to.


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Re: Pre unit T100 valve Timing [Re: triton thrasher] #620934
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Re: Pre unit T100 valve Timing [Re: desco] #621079
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Had a look through that thread and I think I should be able to sort out the equipment needed and then get some figures. They'll not mean much to me but hopefully someone here will be able to decipher them.

Thanks, Keith.

Re: Pre unit T100 valve Timing [Re: Keith] #621082
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Also, if you must wire nuts, do it properly so the wire is pulling both nuts tight.


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