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Triumph and Bing carbs #618462
09/21/15 6:05 pm
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I have an 83 TSX that has Bing carbs (not AMAL). They have been sitting for approximately 20 years and to get the bike up and running again before I start the rebuild I need to give them some attention.

The Triumph part numbers are just about useless but I have managed to track down some BMW threads and info and found these guys Bing Agency International. I sent them an E-mail with the numbers from my carbs and they sent me some info as well as price lists.

Within the price list it shows that the original jetting is not the correct jetting and if I decide to purchase new jets then to have the correct jets it’s going to be an additional $30.87 added to their kits.

I am still exchanging E-mails but I want a second opinion (I know It might be better answered on a BMW forum).

Here are the original jetting’s

• Idle jet = 45
• Needle jet = 2.66
• Atomizer = 591 (short)
• Slide = #3 (1.080)

The correct jetting’s are as follows

• Idle jet = 50
• Needle jet = 2.68
• Atomizer = 590 (tall)
• Slide = #1 (1.160)

The cost for the correct slides is $306.31 but according to them “If you have a #3 Slide it may be cut to the proper dimension. Some Triumphs had a shorter slide that cannot be used.”. I only have one carb torn apart but the slide has a 3 stamped on it so I’m guessing it can be cut (I sent them an E-mail asking about this).

In total I can buy one of two kits the first of which includes all new jets, gaskets, “O”-Rings, and floats for $266.81 (pretty much everything aside from the correct slides). The second kit has everything but the floats and its $204.09.

For $60 is getting new floats worth it? (It also includes the pivot pins)

Also what do you all feel about getting the larger jets?





I want to do the carbs once and not go thru this again for some time after rebuilding so once they are fixed ill buy some 4 cycle TruFuel this stuff is amazing and has a much longer shelf life than the gas from a station. This way I am hoping I can reduce the amount of crud left behind to damn near 0 and I’ll just let the bike run its self out of fuel, pop the bowls off, and clean them out before the gaskets dry up so I can store them until im ready to assemble the bike.

Any other suggestions or am I looking at this in the wrong light?


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618496
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I wouldn't replace those floats; they look fine. I would change only replace the pilot jet (idle jet in Bing speak)and play with rest of the stuff later if necessary. You can buy a rebuild kit that consists of all O-rings, diaphragms, and gaskets from a BMW dealer or specialist for $73.64, which does both carbs. It does not include float needles, which you may need at $17.55 each. The kit P/N is 13 11 1 258 051 and the needle P/N is 13 11 1 335 318. An important item to note is that the choke discs are I.D.ed L and R as if the carbs were on a BMW. They should be reversed for a Triumph.

Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618522
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Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase

Here are the original jetting’s

• Idle jet = 45
• Needle jet = 2.66
• Atomizer = 591 (short)
• Slide = #3 (1.080)

The correct jetting’s are as follows

• Idle jet = 50
• Needle jet = 2.68
• Atomizer = 590 (tall)
• Slide = #1 (1.160)

Any other suggestions or am I looking at this in the wrong light?


I am slightly confused as to what jettings you are referring to here. Just be sure that what you call "the correct jetting" is for this particular bike and not some BMW, you are somewhat unclear on this. Is what you call "the Original jetting" what it had from the factory, and why would this be wrong? From what I read over on the Members project forum your Grandfather who owned this bike before appears to have been a person who knew very well what he was doing. I therefore would not mess with his jettings until it is proven faulty.

There is no need to replace the jets just for starting up the bike! Just clean everything up and replace gaskets and perhaps the odd dried out o-ring or two. If you are setting out to do a complete restoration of the bike a carb overhaul is just an hours worth of work before you fit them back on before startup, nothing to think to much about know.

This is of course just my opinions and you can do what you like with them. And others may naturally disagree.

This far you have been posting in two forums on this board simultaneously with references ping-ponging between the two which is slightly confusing to follow. If you plan to do a restoration I would say that this is the place you should be posting. But then again that is just my opinion and you and others may disagree.
I myself is a very erratic poster. Sometimes being quite active and sometimes not posting for long periods of time (at which times you may sometimes see here http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3155626639&frmid=16&cmd=show
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Enough of my yapping, let's boogie! And good luck with all your work!


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618526
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I agree with Simon that there is no reason to change the jetting of your carbs, before you have the bike running and found that the current settings are incorrect.
There is no reason to assume that the previous owner made a mess of the jetting of the carbs.
Make sure you use the correct data, advice from a BMW source will certainly not be of any use for your Triumph.
My advice is : leave the settings as they are, and start with giving the carbs a good cleanup.
Hope this helps.

Last edited by Peter R; 09/22/15 6:07 am. Reason: typo

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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618528
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Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase

I am still exchanging E-mails but I want a second opinion (I know It might be better answered on a BMW forum).


No, because you're not jetting the carbs for a BMW.


Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase
Here are the original jetting’s

• Idle jet = 45
• Needle jet = 2.66
• Atomizer = 591 (short)
• Slide = #3 (1.080)


"Idle jet 45", "Needle jet 2.66", "Plunger(Slide) No.3" (and "Main jet 140")" are what's listed in the TSX parts book, so why do you think they're wrong?

Is this supplier you are dealing with suggesting their jetting recommendation is a better option than the original spec. as this may be a different matter entirely.




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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618534
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If you want to save money, keep the existing jets as I doubt they are knackered
a good clean is all they need.

Many people report that a small "harbour freight" ultrasonic cleaner is good for carb parts.
Rubber parts do deteriorate over time/exposure to sun/fuel

Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618552
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Triumph were doing anything possible to get these bikes through tightening emissions laws, its quite possible that the stock jetting was influenced by this, perhaps the richer jets suggested restore a little guts.Someone out there will know.
However if it ran before , it will run again , I agree with new idle jets, these are the first to block, gaskets and o rings and it will be good to go.


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618558
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Excuse this post because I am very tired and just got home from work (been up for over 20 hours).

I tend to jump from one thread to another because my project thread may only attract a few people vs. a thread titled “Bing Carbs” might attract an expect or lack thereof but either way.

I by no means have any idea as to what this company is saying in regards to original and correct jettings that’s why I am posting here.

The below image is a copy of the PDF they sent me in regards to the triumph carbs (not BMW)



Now this carb is a type 64 CV carb (from my understanding) and all the CV carbs take the same needles and have the same jettings. This carb isn’t much different than the ones on the BMW’s the only major difference is where mine says BING below it AMAL is engraved instead of the Bing numbers.

I do plan on doing a full restoration and if re-jetting is worth the time and effort in the end then I am game however I agree it should be something done after I get it started up. If everyone says no re jetting is not a good idea or worth the time then I’ll just buy the new parts that match the current and fix the carbs once and not twice.

I have no idea what a larger jet value will allow (I am assuming more fuel, better combustion ratio, more power) because I know very little about carbs.

If I have time I’ll just call the company and see what they have to say as far as why theirs an original and a correct jetting.

The bike will be started with its correct settings I just want to know what I want to do in the end before I make an order.


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618563
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that seems pretty expensive to me?

you can buy brand new Bings from AMAL for £350 ( plus tax) in the UK

Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618564
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Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase
I by no means have any idea as to what this company is saying in regards to original and correct jettings that’s why I am posting here.


Thanks, if we'd had that information from the start then I think we would have had a better idea what it was you actually wanted to know, as I think many of us who replied were under the impression that you thought the jets you found in the carbs were not the correct original jets.

As the carbs are to the original spec. then there's no reason at all why the bike shouldn't run reasonably well with the carbs set up as they are, however as already mentioned, these carbs were originally set up on the lean side to comply with EPA, so the "correct" spec. suggested by the company for Triumph Bings may well offer some improvement in running when compared with the "original" specification.

Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618618
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I am with the others clean it up and see how it goes. Lot of info here:

http://brook.reams.me/2015/05/08/1983-r1...ebuildrefinish/

The original jetting from my May '82 workshop manual is as follows:

T140ES2
Bing CD
64CD
Main Jet 145
Needle Jet 2.66
Needle Pos 3
Piston 5
Pilot Jet 45

My '81 machine was set up similar and ran horribly rich. Fouling plugs etc, I thought it was just flooding which these carbs are prone to, struggled for a year with it. However I discovered an original rider's handbook for my police machine and found the following listing:

Bing Type 94
Main Jet 145
Needle Jet 2.64
Needle Position 2
Piston 3
Pilot Jet 45

It now runs much better and is no longer pi$$ing fuel through the engine. So do run it and then decide.

BTW my bike was also laid up and carbs solid. Cleaned up fine, don't bother with new floats, I did and wasted my money.

Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618628
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Replace the jets and gaskets and have someone put the parts in an ultrasonic cleaner.


Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618640
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Hot dang, that's expensive!

If it where me I would rather just buy a pair of AMAL Concentric instead. But that's just me. Unlike a lot of other people I love the Concentrics and consider them to be the peak of human civilization. They're cheap, easy to work with, spares are also cheap and readily available.

Don't worry about not getting to spend a shitload of money on those Bing carbs you'll end up spending all of your salary eventually, don't you worry about that laugh

But getting the Concentrics would be later on after rebuild. As for now and starting the bike with the carbs that you have. Since all you want to do is to start it then tear it down (why start it one might wonder) it wont really matter if it runs properly or with the occasional missfire, no idle and so on.


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: Simonofsweden] #618643
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Originally Posted By Simonofsweden
Since all you want to do is to start it then tear it down (why start it one might wonder) it wont really matter if it runs properly or with the occasional missfire, no idle and so on.


To make the general consensus happy haha.

I said the same thing since it was started a few years back however since my stepdad wont answer my phone calls and never calls me back i have no idea how to got it running or if they did anything special. It has been 15 years since it ran though so.


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618649
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Getting of topic from the carb issue but if it where me I would probably try riding it for a while if possible (after getting it started). But I know others disagree so lets not get to deep into that debate.

As for your stepfather; is he known to be knowledgable on old brits? If not I would say that it doesn't really matter if you talk to him. Let's just say you talk to him and he says "you gotta use the chokes" or "your legs are to tiny to kick such a bike young man" or whatever it might not really matter.
Your better of learning to do it yourself. Listen to the wise people here. By this I mean the likes of John Healy, Stuart and the rest.
Myself not so much.


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: Simonofsweden] #618659
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Originally Posted By Simonofsweden
Getting of topic from the carb issue but if it where me I would probably try riding it for a while if possible (after getting it started). But I know others disagree so lets not get to deep into that debate.

As for your stepfather; is he known to be knowledgable on old brits? If not I would say that it doesn't really matter if you talk to him. Let's just say you talk to him and he says "you gotta use the chokes" or "your legs are to tiny to kick such a bike young man" or whatever it might not really matter.
Your better of learning to do it yourself. Listen to the wise people here. By this I mean the likes of John Healy, Stuart and the rest.
Myself not so much.


If I could ride it I would but quite a few parts like the handlebar switches need replaces, all the cables need replaced, chain, tires and so on. To me that’s a lot of disassembly to just reassemble.

Stuart has helped a ton here lately and im sure the others will give some great advice as well.

My step dad doesn’t know a lot about old brit bikes but his knowledge of bikes and mechanical know how far exceeds mine. He had the bike running 15 years ago from my knowledge.

Ill order new gaskets soon as John mentioned and ill at least give them a bath until I can find someone with an ultrasonic. If I have to give the carbs another clean after wards that’s fine with me.

Thanks for the input guys.


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618662
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Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase

Ill order new gaskets soon as John mentioned and ill at least give them a bath until I can find someone with an ultrasonic. If I have to give the carbs another clean after wards that’s fine with me.

Just to make sure: you know never to try and clear a blocked passage in a carb with a sharp object right?


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: Simonofsweden] #618686
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Originally Posted By Simonofsweden
Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase

Ill order new gaskets soon as John mentioned and ill at least give them a bath until I can find someone with an ultrasonic. If I have to give the carbs another clean after wards that’s fine with me.

Just to make sure: you know never to try and clear a blocked passage in a carb with a sharp object right?


Definitely no tools.

I plan on getting a gallon of the Berryman Chem-Dip, some pipe cleaners and i have some soft tooth brushes i use when cleaning my guns.

Thanks for the info everyone i think as of right now ill just get gaskets and worry about any sort of rebuild later on.

I am still interested in what the company has to say about the larger jets but this week work is crazy and i just dont have the time to talk on the phone.


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618714
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it depends on what you mean "running"

your idea of "a ton of new parts" is different from mine.
Apart from consumables, ( chain etc) you need very few new parts and they are all 99% available off the shelf.
you will need them sooner or later.

everybody has told you that you must ideally get the bike at least running in the garage before taking it apart to paint it.
Ideally, I'd go through everything that was safety related and have a UK MOT ( road worthiness test) and then ride it to check out any problems,

Trust me, you say that you have zero bike knowledge, but you are prepared to strip and disassemble a bike .
That is how other people buy "projects"

by getting it going for at least a ride around the block, you will find out more about this bike than rewarding a few books.
improved jetting is done AFTER a rebuild. If it ran before, it will ride again.

an ultrasonic cleaner is £20.

Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: AngloBike] #618715
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Originally Posted By AngloBike
By getting it going for at least a ride around the block, you will find out more about this bike than rewarding a few books.

This is in my mind a very good point. Riding the bike, finding out how it feels, and noodling around just getting to know it will be immensely valuable to you.
There are different ways of learning mechanics and to each his own (I like books and then hands-on). But it's hard to beat riding a bike and making adjustments for learning the basics and getting a feel of it.

Originally Posted By AngloBike
Trust me, you say that you have zero bike knowledge, but you are prepared to strip and disassemble a bike .
That is how other people buy "projects".

My Bonneville was bought a basket case (as all four bikes that I currently own for that matter) from just this, a guy who had went in over his head. I kinda went in over my head as well but came out with both me and the bike alive (which is more than I can say for my wallet).

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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: Simonofsweden] #618720
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p.s. Just had a quick look at the pictures you posted on the project board.

A bit confused as to your way of thinking now. For instance: how would you know that the handlebar switches needs replacing? They look just fine and you haven't even got the bike fitted with a proper battery yet. There probably better than some after market crap.
Unless there are cracks in them those tyres will even do ok for a few miles, just don't lean in to much in the curves as they are probably rather dry and may have lost the grip (you'll need new ones eventually of course).
And so on.
You seem to be very enthusiastic for buying new parts (referring to the jet discussion above) but perhaps you should brace your self and first learn how to judge if a part is working or not. You'll find things to spend money on don't you worry 'bout that!


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Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: Simonofsweden] #618723
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Originally Posted By Simonofsweden
....For instance: how would you know that the handlebar switches needs replacing? They look just fine and you haven't even got the bike fitted with a proper battery yet. There probably better than some after market crap......




Yes, I would swap a new switch for that left handlebar one and give the OP twenty dollars into the bargain.

It's a grand machine.

Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: AngloBike] #618734
09/23/15 8:21 am
09/23/15 8:21 am
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Illinois
crazyeyeschase Offline OP
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Originally Posted By AngloBike
it depends on what you mean "running"

your idea of "a ton of new parts" is different from mine.
Apart from consumables, ( chain etc) you need very few new parts and they are all 99% available off the shelf.
you will need them sooner or later.

everybody has told you that you must ideally get the bike at least running in the garage before taking it apart to paint it.
Ideally, I'd go through everything that was safety related and have a UK MOT ( road worthiness test) and then ride it to check out any problems,

I have taken the advice of others and i am working on getting it running, that is why i am asking about these carbs and what the general consensus feels is best.

Trust me, you say that you have zero bike knowledge, but you are prepared to strip and disassemble a bike .
That is how other people buy "projects"

You are very correct I have zero to little bike knowledge that is why i am here to learn and ask questions. Unless i die the bike will not be for sale. It will be fixed weather it takes 10 years or not and weather my methodology suits the methods of others or not.

by getting it going for at least a ride around the block, you will find out more about this bike than rewarding a few books.
improved jetting is done AFTER a rebuild. If it ran before, it will ride again.

Your remark about the jetting is 100% the answer i was looking for when i made this post and i thank you for that.

an ultrasonic cleaner is £20.

I did a little looking last night (literally like 10 minutes) at the price of one and it might be worth it. They work well for cleaning gun parts as well.




Originally Posted By Simonofsweden
p.s. Just had a quick look at the pictures you posted on the project board.

A bit confused as to your way of thinking now. For instance: how would you know that the handlebar switches needs replacing? They look just fine and you haven't even got the bike fitted with a proper battery yet. There probably better than some after market crap.

No offense but instead of just looking at the pictures ;would you read the details. I don't know about the left switches they may be fine how ever i still plan on looking them over maybe cleaning the contacts up and just cleaning them out. The right switches need a bit of work but i think i can make them work. When attempting to get the bike to turn over i took the switch apart because i wasn't getting a good signal from the kill switch. In the process i believe i lost a contact plate from the spring that makes the contact between the power wire. By no means does this mean i need new ones so i suppose my response earlier wasn't quite as detailed as possible.

Unless there are cracks in them those tyres will even do ok for a few miles, just don't lean in to much in the curves as they are probably rather dry and may have lost the grip (you'll need new ones eventually of course).
And so on.
You seem to be very enthusiastic for buying new parts (referring to the jet discussion above) but perhaps you should brace your self and first learn how to judge if a part is working or not. You'll find things to spend money on don't you worry 'bout that!

Ill be the first to say i don't know much about carbs everything Ive ever worked on has been fuel injected aside from my lawn mower. This thread was me trying to find out what i needed now and of changing the jetting was worth the extra expense it was not meant to somehow justify for me that getting the jetting swapped was worth it.


I have stated time and time again i want to keep this bike as close to original as possible and yes i have said i ideally want to tear down and get started ASAP because i personally feel i cannot save the money to do the entire thing in one go. Well i could save the money but once the fiancee found out about a large chunk of change sitting she would want it for something.

I just feel working on the bike piece by piece slowly will result in a much better quality bike in the end (out of me at least).

Ultimately what i am going to do with the bike in the long term has not been decided yet. One day i want to tear it apart and get to work, while the next i want to save money. Until i can come to terms with myself as to what action i feel i want to take then i will follow thru with that plan but first is getting it started.

I am trying to be realistic with myself in parts. I understand many of them i can likely repair either cheaper than new repos or at a slightly higher cost than repos (I would rather spend more money restoring something than buying new/repos).

If i look at a part like the handle switches for example and say "Ok Chase those need replaced" it is more about being self conscious as to what is wrong and what the total price may be even though i know damn well a little solder might be all the connections need and ill have a perfectly working switch.

Guys i will try damn hard to better explain myself when posting but please stop dwelling on my past posts.

I am learning a lot here and i guarantee i am thinking very heavily on the things all of you say but e all come from different backgrounds and we all have different situations.


2009 Honda Shadow Spirit 750

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1983 Triumph TSX
Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618735
09/23/15 8:29 am
09/23/15 8:29 am
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Scotland
kommando Online content
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Until you gain more experience you will tend to buy new rather than refurbish, currently how would you know just by looking. Try posting good pics and asking for opinions before committing, but even experienced brit bike mechanics will disagree. Using a forum is like shouting out a question out ina bar, lots of answers but not all agreeing and not all right, its up to you to apply your own filters, no point in complaining at the answers as they are made with good intentions.

Re: Triumph and Bing carbs [Re: crazyeyeschase] #618743
09/23/15 9:45 am
09/23/15 9:45 am
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Gothenburg/Stockholm, Sweden
Simonofsweden Offline
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Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase

[quote=Simonofsweden]p.s. Just had a quick look at the pictures you posted on the project board.

No offense but instead of just looking at the pictures ;would you read the details.

I have of course read the entire text, all the posts. What do you think? I formulated this in a kinda poor way though "I just WENT BACK and had a quick look AGAIN at the pictures you posted on the project board" would have been a better way of putting it.

I think perhaps there is a slight miss understanding with regards to "getting the bike started" I think what most people was aiming at was that you get the bike going and use it for a bit to sort of find out what state it is in. You seem to have taken it more as to start it for 30 seconds in the garage and thats it.

But you are of course free to do as you like with your bike. And to choose to whom you listen, people from around the globe and of all ages, inclinations and types here (only one gender however) so you will not always get a unison reply (what Kommando said but in more words).


I make misstakes on a daily basis!
Behold a selection of my different means of transportation (very poorly updated these days...) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bohuslan/sets/
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